Carl Frampton, whats next?

Gerard3003

So in the aftermath of his dominant win over Scott Quigg, what do people think is next for the Jackal? Defending his current belts? A weight change to take on Santa Cruz?

weemcd

Ducking Rigo like the plague

FTA69

weemcd wrote: »

Ducking Rigo like the plague

I would too in fairness. You'd end up getting the hiding of your life off a man nobody knows about in a fight that would sell very little.

walshb

FTA69 wrote: »

I would too in fairness. You'd end up getting the hiding of your life off a man nobody knows about in a fight that would sell very little.

I don't buy this or get this. I assume by hiding you mean a bad beating? Rigo likely does as he always does. Cruises his way to a casual win. Not saying he cannot step it up and fight consistently hard, but it's just not his style. I think Carl is being sold short here. I think he is more than capable of being somewhat competitive against an ageing Rigo.

weemcd

walshb wrote: »

I don't buy this or get this. I assume by hiding you mean a bad beating? Rigo likely does as he always does. Cruises his way to a casual win. Not saying he cannot step it up and fight consistently hard, but it's just not his style. I think Carl is being sold short here. I think he is more than capable of bring somewhat competitive against ansging Rigo.

I would tend to agree, Frampton would pose problems for Rigo who has been knocked down before. Very possible Frampton could find his chin. I don't think Frampton's team want him anywhere near the Cuban which is the real shame though.

Andre 3000

Rigondeaux gets knocked down rather easily but I have never seen him hurt, similar to Juan Manuel Marquez. Frampton would need KD's every few rounds to have a chance imo. However, Rigo is getting old now and he isn't incredibly active against decent opponents so Carl is at the right time to beat him....I cannot see it though. If Rigo is even at half the state he was against Donaire he'll cruise to a UD against Carl.

Johner

If Frampton loses a close decision to Rigo then that would hardly be terrible for his career, most people have Rigo in heir P4P lists? Why wouldn't Frampton want to test himself against the best, there are big fights for him out there and a loss against Rigo is not the end of the world especially when most people expect him to lose.

megadodge

Carl isn't the problem with the Rigondeaux fight happening, it's the management.

He had a very good interview in Boxing News in the buildup to the Quigg fight and he himself seemed very keen on fighting Rigondeaux. He brought it up, not the interviewer and I've no doubt he was sincere.

When Barry was interviewed however, the impression was that he'd prefer the fight not to happen any time soon.

And I like Barry.

Devastator

Can't believe nobody has mentioned a Quigg rematch! :eek:

Gerard3003

Devastator wrote: »

Can't believe nobody has mentioned a Quigg rematch! :eek:

Tbh think his victory was too decisive to warrant a rematch, how it was a split decision is beyond me , definitely should have been unanimous. Don't know what fight that one judge that scored it for Quigg was watching

Devastator

Gerard3003 wrote: »

Tbh think his victory was too decisive to warrant a rematch, how it was a split decision is beyond me , definitely should have been unanimous. Don't know what fight that one judge that scored it for Quigg was watching

It was tongue on cheek. I don't think anybody, ever, wants to see that rematch.

Whoever that judge was should never be allowed to judge again. When I heard that I thought it was going to be a farsical draw to setup a rematch

Devastator

http://www.irish-boxing.com/frampton-thinks-santa-cruz-fight-could-be-windsor-winner/#

Carl Frampton doesn’t think he can make too many demands when it comes to making a fight with Leo Santa Cruz, however he remains hopeful he can take the featherweight World champion to Belfast in the Summer.
A massive Irish versus Mexican World title fight looks certain to happen in July or August and all the indications are the unified super bantamweight World champion and the three weight titlist have agreed in principle to fight.
The were and when are still up in the air and Frampton is hoping the WBA featherweight title fight could play out in Windsor a ground the Northern Ireland football fan is very familiar with.
“We want the Santa Cruz fight in the summer and he says he wants and we are both with Al Haymon – so the fight could be easily made,” ‘The Jackal said recently.
“The fight would have to be at featherweight for his world title and because he is the world champion – we cannot make too many demands but I would love to fight him at Windsor Park in August.”
Wheter or not the champion comes to Belfast to make one of the biggest fights ever to take place on Irish soil will come down to the financial figures, but Frampton is keen to dismiss as myth talk that the numbers only add up in America.
“Hopefully he will come and people think there is more money to be made in America but that is not the case.
“It is all about selling tickets and we could sell-out Windsor and I think Santa Cruz can make loads of money if he comes here. So hopefully that fight can be made.”

I think Carl could fight a cardboard cut out and sell out Windsor park with the love he has in Belfast

Devastator

pac_man wrote: »

July would be a non-runner with the marching season in full flow up there. August is traditionally a bad time to hold a fight but I don't think he's have any trouble selling that out. Can't see it happening over here.

Marching season? The whole year is basically marching season lol Yeah it quietens down a bit over winter because they don't like the rain(or might melt depending on who you ask!). July would be considered their busiest month for marching but thats around the 12th July celebrations. The 2nd 1/2 of July is pretty quiet and things are mostly normal....but all of that aside, marches(apart from 12th July) have ended by late afternoon.

Windsor is only about 200 yards from 1 of the main routes into & out of the city so marches on that road are limited because of the disruption it causes. There is also a train station beside Windsor for fans who can't travel by car. So really the 1st 2 weeks of July you can probably discount but shouldn't be a problem after that.

FTA69

walshb wrote: »

I don't buy this or get this. I assume by hiding you mean a bad beating? Rigo likely does as he always does. Cruises his way to a casual win. Not saying he cannot step it up and fight consistently hard, but it's just not his style. I think Carl is being sold short here. I think he is more than capable of being somewhat competitive against an ageing Rigo.

Rigo can bang. I don't care what anyone says, that man has the ability to do damage and cause hurt. When he fought Donaire he ended up fracturing his eye-socket, a lot of his opponents end up getting soundly beaten. There is nothing worse than constantly taking a hard straight left down the pipe off a fella like that.

From a financial point of view the fight doesn't make sense. In draw terms Rigondeaux is a flop who nobody wants to see and it's a fight that Frampton would almost certainly lose. In the business of prize fighting there is little point in a fight that wouldn't sell and would only hurt Frampton's aura.

walshb

FTA69 wrote: »

Rigo can bang. I don't care what anyone says, that man has the ability to do damage and cause hurt. When he fought Donaire he ended up fracturing his eye-socket, a lot of his opponents end up getting soundly beaten. There is nothing worse than constantly taking a hard straight left down the pipe off a fella like that.

From a financial point of view the fight doesn't make sense. In draw terms Rigondeaux is a flop who nobody wants to see and it's a fight that Frampton would almost certainly lose. In the business of prize fighting there is little point in a fight that wouldn't sell and would only hurt Frampton's aura.

I agree, he can hit, but so what? He's a pro boxer. Carl can hit a little too, and IMO enough to hurt Rigo. It's small man against small man. There's so much hype around Rigo being some monster, some unbetaable force. I don't get that. I would make him a favourite, but if Carl boxes to a plan he can be somewhat competitive, surely? He could get banged out early. I undertsand this, but he also could get in his powerful shots early.

Saying this, I would maie Rigo a favourite, and I would not be surprised if he got the job done convincingly and early.

FTA69

walshb wrote: »

I agree, he can hit, but so what? He's a pro boxer. Carl can hit a little too, and IMO enough to hurt Rigo. It's small man against small man. There's so much hype around Rigo being some monster, some unbetaable force. I don't get that. I would make him a favourite, but if Carl boxes to a plan he can be somewhat competitive, surely? He could get banged out early. I undertsand this, but he also could get in his powerful shots early.

Saying this, I would maie Rigo a favourite, and I would not be surprised if he got the job done convincingly and early.

Why would Frampton fight him when Rigo isn't a financial draw? Santa Cruz fight would make a load, Mexico v Ireland etc. Getting a loss to an obscure Cuban who brings little financial reward isn't an appealing prospect.

walshb

FTA69 wrote: »

Why would Frampton fight him when Rigo isn't a financial draw? Santa Cruz fight would make a load, Mexico v Ireland etc. Getting a loss to an obscure Cuban who brings little financial reward isn't an appealing prospect.

Was that Mexican a financial draw last year? How about Chris Avalos? This red herring about not being a financial draw is ridiculous. He has no issue fighting nobodies. Surely Rigo would generate some bloody interest.

Btw, Rigo may not be a global star, but he's a bit more than an obscure Cuban!

Mantis Toboggan

Rigo has a decent profile in Ireland after what he did to willie big bang. Rigo isn't a big draw.... Surely they'd Atleast sell out Windsor Park!

FTA69

walshb wrote: »

Was that Mexican a financial draw last year? How about Chris Avalos? This red herring about not being a financial draw is ridiculous. He has no issue fighting nobodies. Surely Rigo would generate some bloody interest.

Btw, Rigo may not be a global star, but he's a bit more than an obscure Cuban!

He is obscure mate, the average fan doesn't know who he is and the ones who do don't even like him and think he's boring. Remember the booing at the Donaire fight? Promoters want nothing to do with him.

Now don't get me wrong, I love Rigo and would love to see the fight made; I'm only speculating as to why it hasn't been made.

Devastator

I'm pretty certain that if they put Frampton in Windsor park with opponent to be announced it would still sell out.