Lime/slurry/cut sward

max12

ph is low following soil samples and am planning to shake granlime.

I'm hoping that someone will be able to guide me here on the best way to shake it all. its for silage ground. my question is what is the best sequence to go with between the granlime, slurry and cut sward.

blue5000

Might be better to leave the lime until after it's cut. What are the results? Slurry first, then fert after 10-14 days.

tanko

blue5000 wrote: »

Might be better to leave the lime until after it's cut. What are the results? Slurry first, then fert after 10-14 days.

I know it's too late to put out ordinary ground lime on silage ground but thought Granlime would be ok in the next week and cut the first week of June. Is it too late for that?

blue5000

tanko wrote: »

I know it's too late to put out ordinary ground lime on silage ground but thought Granlime would be ok in the next week and cut the first week of June. Is it too late for that?

Unless it's 11 month rented ground granlime is waste of money.

J.O. Farmer

blue5000 wrote: »

Unless it's 11 month rented ground granlime is waste of money.

It's more expensive but to say it's a waste of money unless 11 month rented is a bit harsh. There's fields down the west that you'd have a job to get conventional lime spreaders without leaving ridges for spuds.
Also land can be very fragmented and small. Unless you want lime spread on the whole farm in one go it might be hard to get a contractor to do the job.
Granted if you have a 100 acres in tillage country granlime is a waste of money but in some circumstances it may be a case of granlime or no lime. In that context I'm not so sure it's a waste of money.

Farrell

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

It's more expensive but to say it's a waste of money unless 11 month rented is a bit harsh. There's fields down the west that you'd have a job to get conventional lime spreaders without leaving ridges for spuds.
Also land can be very fragmented and small. Unless you want lime spread on the whole farm in one go it might be hard to get a contractor to do the job.
Granted if you have a 100 acres in tillage country granlime is a waste of money but in some circumstances it may be a case of granlime or no lime. In that context I'm not so sure it's a waste of money.

Think you can get slag, would it be maybe a better option to glime

tanko

Leaving aside its cost, is it too late to put Granlime on this week on silage ground for cutting the first week of June?

Limestone Cowboy

blue5000 wrote: »

Unless it's 11 month rented ground granlime is waste of money.

Dunno would I say that blue, going by soil sample results here 2 bags of gran has the equivalent effect of a ton of ground lime and it works fast. Serious difference in the fields that got it for a few years.

Tyson Lannister

How long after you have spread gran line must you wait til you can spread slurry?

farawaygrass

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Dunno would I say that blue, going by soil sample results here 2 bags of gran has the equivalent effect of a ton of ground lime and it works fast. Serious difference in the fields that got it for a few years.

I heard that the other day too. 2 bags are €16 (I think), and do an acre. How much Is a ton of ground lime spread? Would €25 sound right? And it takes maybe 6 months to work, although it lasts s few years. How long would granlime stay in the ground for?

croot

tanko wrote: »

Leaving aside its cost, is it too late to put Granlime on this week on silage ground for cutting the first week of June?

I've done it and never had a problem. Going to do it again this year on silage ground because it was to wet to put out ordinary lime. I'm putting out slurry/urea first and gromaw a week or 10 days later.

CloughCasey1

farawaygrass wrote: »

I heard that the other day too. 2 bags are €16 (I think), and do an acre. How much Is a ton of ground lime spread? Would €25 sound right? And it takes maybe 6 months to work, although it lasts s few years. How long would granlime stay in the ground for?

Approx 2yrs

Carrigogunnell

I would say it stays for more like a year it should help neutralise the ph for the year but it's not a long term solution. 2 bags will do for maintaince for the year. It starts to work instanly I would think you would be safe to spread it now but dust lime is definitely a no no.

welton john

if ph is low 2 bags to raise it and one bag yearly for maintainance according to local rep.

Dunedin

Don't think there is any issue in Gran lime re silage.

Quarry lime would be an absolute no no.

Carrigogunnell

welton john wrote: »

if ph is low 2 bags to raise it and one bag yearly for maintainance according to local rep.

i would not agree if you need 2 tonne of lime 100 kgs is not going to do much long term for you I would be in favour of correcting the problem first and then follow yearly with your bag of gran lime.

J.O. Farmer

Carrigogunnell wrote: »

i would not agree if you need 2 tonne of lime 100 kgs is not going to do much long term for you I would be in favour of correcting the problem first and then follow yearly with your bag of gran lime.

It's impressive 100kg every year whereas the 2 tonne is over 5 years for a start. The granlime is much finer than quarry lime so is mostly available and used up in year 1 so that's 500kg.

jimini0

Sorry for hijacking your thread max12.
Since ye are talking about granlime I was hoping I could get a bit of advice.
A couple of rented fields need lime. Too awkward and wet for lime spreader. So i have a tonne of granlime on order. Quad and spreader ready to go. Which first lime or fertiliser? How much time in between lime and fert? Normally spread 18-6-12

welton john

Carrigogunnell wrote: »

i would not agree if you need 2 tonne of lime 100 kgs is not going to do much long term for you I would be in favour of correcting the problem first and then follow yearly with your bag of gran lime.

spread two bags/acre on a field last year with ph 5.9 results.major improvement in it the backend of last year.think this corrected it.will prob sample again this year anyway.If 2 bags acre was required for maintainence im sure the rep selling the stuff would a been the first to tell me;)

Reggie.

Farrell wrote: »

Think you can get slag, would it be maybe a better option to glime

What is slag exactly

mf240

jimini0 wrote: »

Sorry for hijacking your thread max12.
Since ye are talking about granlime I was hoping I could get a bit of advice.
A couple of rented fields need lime. Too awkward and wet for lime spreader. So i have a tonne of granlime on order. Quad and spreader ready to go. Which first lime or fertiliser? How much time in between lime and fert? Normally spread 18-6-12

Don't think it matters with 18 6 12 it's only urea and or slurry that you need to worry about.

mf240

What kind of money is gran lime. Got quarry lime spread for 22 a Ton last week

Tyson Lannister

mf240 wrote: »

Don't think it matters with 18 6 12 it's only urea and or slurry that you need to worry about.

What's the story wth granlime and slurry - how long must you wait with the slurry?

tanko

mf240 wrote: »

What kind of money is gran lime. Got quarry lime spread for 22 a Ton last week

€9.50 for a 50kg bag I think.

mf240

Tyson Lannister wrote: »

What's the story wth granlime and slurry - how long must you wait with the slurry?

You can spread lime a week after slurry. But if lime first your supposed to wait three months before applying slurry.

Farrell

Reggie. wrote: »

What is slag exactly

Think it's the waste from steel foundries.
Would of being used allot in 50/60's.
Guy in Store says it's better than lime, so was going to try it

Farrell

mf240 wrote: »

Don't think it matters with 18 6 12 it's only urea and or slurry that you need to worry about.

So if I spread slurry last week & intend putting out 1/2 bag/ac next week, when would be a good time for glime

Reggie.

Farrell wrote: »

Think it's the waste from steel foundries.
Would of being used allot in 50/60's.
Guy in Store says it's better than lime, so was going to try it

Always wondered as one condition on some local rented ground is that no slag is to spread. Never really knew what it was

Farrell

Reggie. wrote: »

Always wondered as one condition on some local rented ground is that no slag is to spread. Never really knew what it was

Hardly something with soil type & reponce to slag in the past

Reggie.

Farrell wrote: »

Hardly something with soil type & reponce to slag in the past

God only knows

mf240

Farrell wrote: »

So if I spread slurry last week & intend putting out 1/2 bag/ac next week, when would be a good time for glime

This is a good article on lime and all the common questions are answered

http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/how-to-optimise-your-soil-productivity-with-lime-29954192.html

mf240

Reggie. wrote: »

What is slag exactly

http://www.precisionagireland.ie/Super_Slag_Basic.html

Farrell

mf240 wrote: »

This is a good article on lime and all the common questions are answered

http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/how-to-optimise-your-soil-productivity-with-lime-29954192.html

Good article, wonder should glime be treated in same way to granlime?

Dunedin

mf240 wrote: »

This is a good article on lime and all the common questions are answered

http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/how-to-optimise-your-soil-productivity-with-lime-29954192.html

The only thing it doesn't answer is what is the minimum time to allow for lime before silage cut. Just recommends spreading after but if land needs it now, then yield will be down without the lime.