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Boiler and Heating System Quote

  • 21-03-2016 10:03am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16


    Hi All,

    I recently received the quote below for a boiler replacement, replacement rads, heating controls etc.

    Wondering if anyone would have a view on if this seems reasonable?

    • Remove existing oil boiler
    • To supply and fit a 26kw high efficiency Ideal Vogue system condensing gas boiler
    • Supply and fit magnetic filter on heating system
    • Run condense line from boiler to drain
    • Supply and fit 36x18 insulated cylinder complete with electrical immersion
    • Supply and install EPH heating control pack to provide 2 separate heating and water zones
    • Supply and fit 3 high output convector radiators in bedrooms
    • Replace all gb pipework on heating system
    • Supply and fit 80x60 pvc tank, lid and lagging jacket
    • The system will be chemically cleansed and a corrosion inhibitor will be introduced
    • All rubbish will be removed on completion of work

    Cost €6960.00
    Vat € 940.00
    Total € 7900.00 less carbon credit discount of € 350= € 7550.00


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Hi All,

    I recently received the quote below for a boiler replacement, replacement rads, heating controls etc.

    Wondering if anyone would have a view on if this seems reasonable?

    • Remove existing oil boiler
    • To supply and fit a 26kw high efficiency Ideal Vogue system condensing gas boiler
    • Supply and fit magnetic filter on heating system
    • Run condense line from boiler to drain
    • Supply and fit 36x18 insulated cylinder complete with electrical immersion
    • Supply and install EPH heating control pack to provide 2 separate heating and water zones
    • Supply and fit 3 high output convector radiators in bedrooms
    • Replace all gb pipework on heating system
    • Supply and fit 80x60 pvc tank, lid and lagging jacket
    • The system will be chemically cleansed and a corrosion inhibitor will be introduced
    • All rubbish will be removed on completion of work

    Cost €6960.00
    Vat € 940.00
    Total € 7900.00 less carbon credit discount of € 350= € 7550.00

    Sounds a bit on the high side but then again it depends on the labour involved. Are there timber floors or have the plumber to kango concrete floors?
    If you're re piping the heating then seperate living/bedrooms/hot water to zones and apply for the seai grant too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 The Last Beep


    Thanks for the reply, I've had a second quote which came in around € 400 higher before any reductions for grants were applied. The second quote included 3 zones, instead of the 2 here and a 24kw Worcester Bosch boiler rather than the Ideal Vogue system here. Any view on the better boiler?

    Floors are timber throughout so no need to kango. Both installers are proposing moving the existing hot water tank downstairs as there really isn't space for a new insulated tank in the current hot press. Any downsides to this?

    I've seen reference to powerflushes being preferable to chemical cleansing but both installers have quoted for a the chemical option, should I be pushing for a powerflush?

    Sorry to bombard with questions but I'm on a steep learning curve!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Thanks for the reply, I've had a second quote which came in around € 400 higher before any reductions for grants were applied. The second quote included 3 zones, instead of the 2 here and a 24kw Worcester Bosch boiler rather than the Ideal Vogue system here. Any view on the better boiler?

    Floors are timber throughout so no need to kango. Both installers are proposing moving the existing hot water tank downstairs as there really isn't space for a new insulated tank in the current hot press. Any downsides to this?

    I've seen reference to powerflushes being preferable to chemical cleansing but both installers have quoted for a the chemical option, should I be pushing for a powerflush?

    Sorry to bombard with questions but I'm on a steep learning curve!

    Nothing wrong with having the cylinder downstairs.
    As for a powerflush, then yes, 110% go with that option. It is the only way to properly clean a heating system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭roy rodgers


    I'd go for the 3 zone over the 2 zone the Worcester over the ideal and get them to add the rapid recovery cylinder with 50 mm insulation much better than the standard one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭RoryW


    The Last Beep

    Would you mind PM'ing me the places you got quotes for

    I am at the start of a similar journey of renovation of a 1930s property

    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    RoryW wrote: »
    The Last Beep

    Would you mind PM'ing me the places you got quotes for

    I am at the start of a similar journey of renovation of a 1930s property

    thanks
    Post your location and some could reccomend a company


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 The Last Beep


    I'd go for the 3 zone over the 2 zone the Worcester over the ideal and get them to add the rapid recovery cylinder with 50 mm insulation much better than the standard one.

    I'm guessing the clue is in the name, but what is the benefit of the rapid recovery cylinder?

    I'm definitely leaning towards going for 3 zones ahead of 2, the cost difference is minimal and it probably pays back quickly with the added control you get.

    We have a stove in the kitchen which was previously tied into the heating system but is disconnected now, any views on if its worth looking at adding this in? One of the installers didn't think it was worth it but interested in other views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭roy rodgers


    I'm guessing the clue is in the name, but what is the benefit of the rapid recovery cylinder?

    I'm definitely leaning towards going for 3 zones ahead of 2, the cost difference is minimal and it probably pays back quickly with the added control you get.

    We have a stove in the kitchen which was previously tied into the heating system but is disconnected now, any views on if its worth looking at adding this in? One of the installers didn't think it was worth it but interested in other views.

    Yeah a rapid recovery is what it is. It will heat your hot water from cold in about 30 mins from a standard cylinder would take an hour. It should also have a 50 mm insulation on it as to the 25 mm from a standard cylinder.
    If your doing such a big job it be mad not to have a 3 zone system.
    The stove really depends on the quality of the stove is the pipe work already in place would a heat genie be needed ? It could cost an extra 2k euros to get the stove plumbed into the system properly. It takes a bit of doing but can be done but you should weight up the cost verses how many times the stove is gonna be on.


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