Top Gear Controversy.

kneemos

In the dog house for doing doughnuts near a war memorial apparently.
Looks like more of the same tyre burning nonsense from the new crew.£650,000 per episode I hear it costs for the new show,you'd think they'd come up with something original.

https://www.google.ie/url?q=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3490079/Matt-LeBlanc-performs-smoking-wheelspins-just-yards-Cenotaph-Gear-filming-brings-central-London-standstill.html&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjh2Juv6cHLAhVnM5oKHUmMALkQFggxMAY&usg=AFQjCNFqDz6eIObCaXRXpdOvDpo_GTjYGA

darkpagandeath

You cant fall over in London without seeing a statue or a memorial to someone.

Son0vagun

Hair Bikers got in trouble for the same thing, but it was croissants not doughnuts.

Sweetemotion

Heard this on the radio yesterday.

How do you make a doughnut laugh?











You tickle its hole.

stoneill

darkpagandeath wrote: »

You cant fall over in London without seeing a statue or a memorial to someone.

yeah - there are cenotaphs everywhere.

Samaris

I gotta admit, when I saw that, my mental reaction was "seriously?" It smacks to me of manufactured controversy to reassure the fans of old Top Gear that the current lot are entertaining rule-breakers too. Thing is, Clarkson's persona was an entertaining asshole and so he got away with it. A fresh-faced Chris Evans just looks a bit of a tool trying to do it.

Get your own thing, lads, and stop trying to ride on the coat-tails of something which won't work again.

Also, I don't think he's got the balls to pull a Clarkson and dismiss the protests as rubbish. I didn't always AGREE with him, mind you, but he had the guts to stick to his persona. The new lot will do something, get into trouble and meekly apologise. Their best bet would be to work on how they interact and get something rolling, be entertaining to watch snarking off each other. Not just jumping for the Jackass shock shtick.

HalloweenJack

You can see the difference in tact from Top Gear already. As soon as this came out, Chris Evans was on the airs apologising profusely and humbly. Back in the old days, Jeremy Clarkson would have told people to **** off.

Not that I'm interested in the show either way, just interesting to see how quickly things have changed.

iDave

Everyone is offended by everything these days.

dr.fuzzenstein

iDave wrote: »

Everyone is offended by everything these days.

Actually, that offends me.

MadDog76

iDave wrote: »

Everyone is offended by everything these days.

F*ck you!

Bio Mech

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Heard this on the radio yesterday.

How do you make a doughnut laugh?


You tickle its hole.

You need to find a new station.

SEPT 23 1989

Clarkson & Co seemed to show respect for anything military especially WW2

AnonoBoy

I'm always surprised at how much coverage a twatty show about cars gets in the media.

CFlat

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I'm always surprised at how much coverage a twatty show about cars gets in the media.

I'll see your Top Gear and I'll raise you The Kardashians.

iDave

MadDog76 wrote: »

F*ck you!

Reported!

Echoes675

The horror! Wow donuts near a monument. I don't see what the problem is. It's not like they pissed on it is it?

Jesus.

Top Gear is grim.

A man in a car does doughnuts. Woohoo. He's famous. Woohoohoo.

Do they still do "gas" stuff like crashing caravans and completely staged and scripted "moments" during drives through South America? Is the small guy with the big hair still in it?

FunLover18

Reminds of the quote that came out during one of the poppy debates where a World War 2 veteran came out and said they'd fought for people's freedom to not wear a poppy or something along those lines.

I don't understand how it's disrespectful, did the Nazis like doing doughnuts?

jimgoose

I see even The Guardian agree with the view that Evan's shouldn't have apologised. Imagine that! :pac:

kneemos

jimgoose wrote: »

I see even The Guardian agree with the view that Evan's shouldn't have apologised. Imagine that! :pac:

It was a weak enough apology in fairness.
The camera angle apparently made it look closer to the Cenotaph than it was,Evans apologised for how it appeared.

recyclops

this pretty much sums it up

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/right-wing-dad-fails-to-see-irony-of-top-gear-cenotaph-stunt-20160315107152

Echoes675

recyclops wrote: »

this pretty much sums it up

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/right-wing-dad-fails-to-see-irony-of-top-gear-cenotaph-stunt-20160315107152

Haha! sums it up pretty well

Harry Palmr

Somewhere Clarkson and Co are looking on knowingly.

Fratton Fred

I've got old school friends that pop up on Facebook every now and then getting all outraged over this type of thing.

None have so far, so I'm not sure what this fuss was all about.

hmmm

An apology for nothing is a pretty weak start from the new Top Gear. You might not have liked the politics of Clarkson & crew, but the bit of edge they had made it more than simply a car show.

LDN_Irish

Back in my day Top Gear presenters only offended foreigners and punched Irish people. The bloody BBC PC brigade have destroyed what our once great car programme used to stand for.

Cienciano

Samaris wrote: »

I gotta admit, when I saw that, my mental reaction was "seriously?" It smacks to me of manufactured controversy to reassure the fans of old Top Gear that the current lot are entertaining rule-breakers too. Thing is, Clarkson's persona was an entertaining asshole and so he got away with it. A fresh-faced Chris Evans just looks a bit of a tool trying to do it.

Get your own thing, lads, and stop trying to ride on the coat-tails of something which won't work again.

Also, I don't think he's got the balls to pull a Clarkson and dismiss the protests as rubbish. I didn't always AGREE with him, mind you, but he had the guts to stick to his persona. The new lot will do something, get into trouble and meekly apologise. Their best bet would be to work on how they interact and get something rolling, be entertaining to watch snarking off each other. Not just jumping for the Jackass shock shtick.

They can't win then, you criticise them for doing what Clarkson did, and you criticise them for not acting like Clarkson afterwards.
Best bet would be to watch the new show when it's out and if you're entertained, continue watching.

Nodin

stoneill wrote: »

yeah - there are cenotaphs everywhere.

Yep, but you are free to headbang about them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxMJDTJXleI

Samaris

Cienciano wrote: »

They can't win then, you criticise them for doing what Clarkson did, and you criticise them for not acting like Clarkson afterwards.
Best bet would be to watch the new show when it's out and if you're entertained, continue watching.

I'm sure they care about what I think! :pac:

Nah, my point is that it LOOKS like they're trying to pull a Clarkson on it - do something "outrageous", get lots of attention and either draw it out by sniffing at said annoyance or the BBC has to apologise more or less on their behalf. Because whether or not you like him, Clarkson mostly sticks to his guns (He could be a tool at times too, mind you).


Trying to copy with a weak-ass attempt at controversy looks a bit pathetic. It looks even more pathetic if they whimper at the first scolding look directed at them. As if they're making a swing for one aspect of old Top Gear but can't follow through.

Hence they'd be better off getting their own shtick and not go for the more controversial stunts.

Magico Gonzalez

For people who don't care about the program there's an awful lot of chatter about it.

Non story manufactured by the media and maintained in the public eye by the chattering classes. The power of new media.

seamus

A ten million word article in the idiots' rag along with tonnes of pictures?

Yeah I'm sure they're really sorry they did this. Journalists writing more positive PR material than they could afford to buy and publishing it all in their target demographics' paper of choice.

Samaris

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

For people who don't care about the program there's an awful lot of chatter about it.

Non story manufactured by the media and maintained in the public eye by the chattering classes. The power of new media.

The chattering classes, that's a new bit of classism! :pac:

Personally, I was a fan of the old show. Sure, they did some dumbass stuff, but they were fun to watch.

Edit: Oh heavens, the literati are really coming in droves now!

jimgoose

Samaris wrote: »

The chattering classes, that's a new bit of classism! :pac:

Personally, I was a fan of the old show. Sure, they did some dumbass stuff, but they were fun to watch...

You see, in the old days Clarkson - presumably it would have been him doing the doughnuts, or whatever - would have concluded the test/stunt/whatever film with some po-faced remark about the car, or the government, and then May would have rumbled, like General Melchett's granny, "Clarkson! You really are a monumental knob!!". The audience would have had a good laugh, as would I, and that would have been the end of it.

Samaris

jimgoose wrote: »

You see, in the old days Clarkson - presumably it would have been him doing the doughnuts, or whatever - would have concluded the test/stunt/whatever film with some po-faced remark about the car, or the government, and then May would have rumbled, like General Melchett's granny, "Clarkson! You really are a monumental knob!!". The audience would have had a good laugh, as would I, and that would have been the end of it.

Weeell, there might have been a few hundred "Shocked in Liverpool" [or wherever] letters sent in and whoever is in charge of complaints in BBC would sigh...

That job must have sucked when Clarkson was on the payroll. :pac:

Badly Drunk Boy

Samaris wrote: »

Weeell, there might have been a few hundred "Shocked in Liverpool" [or wherever] letters sent in and whoever is in charge of complaints in BBC would sigh...

That would have been "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells".

jimgoose

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

That would have been "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells".

Uh-oh!