Garda Selection Process

OFDM

Does anyone know from past experience exactly what the individual stages of the selection process for An Garda Síochána involve?
From the "notes for applicants" the three stages are:

Stage 1:
Verbal Evaluation
Analytical Reasoning
Job Simulation exercise

Stage 2:
Written Communication exercise and competive interview

Stage 3:
Medical exam & physical competency test.

Stage 3 is fairly obvious but what is involved in the exercises for stages 1 & 2 and what kind of questions might be asked in the interview?

jonny68

If your like http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0831/morris you`ll be ok.......

L5

jonny68 wrote:

If your like http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0831/morris you`ll be ok.......

does anyone know how much more money you're offered if you sign up with a degree? I know they pay more, but does anyone have any figures?
thanks

OFDM

L5 wrote:

does anyone know how much more money you're offered if you sign up with a degree? I know they pay more, but does anyone have any figures?
thanks

You get 3 increments, which is equivalent to what you'd get after 4 years with just the leaving, which was around 30k according to last years payscales somewhere on the garda website.

jonny68 - you are a muppet - rep--.

L5

OFDM wrote:

You get 3 increments, which is equivalent to what you'd get after 4 years with just the leaving, which was around 30k according to last years payscales somewhere on the garda website.

jonny68 - you are a muppet.

thats not too bad actually.
thanks for the info.
btw do you know how hard it is to get into a specialized unit such as computer crime unit.?
i have a 4 year degree in computing from dcu

OFDM

Yeah, the pays better than what I could get from a graduate engineering job at the moment. From what I've read, you have to be a rank & file garda for 3 years before you can transfer to a specialist unit or do the sergeants exam, but I'm not 100% on this. I'm sure having a relevant degree would get you into the computer crime unit quicker than someone without it.

I seem to remember hearing somewhere (tv, I think) that there's a waiting list ot get into the mounted unit and the emergency response unit. Could be the same for other units.

Horeb

Guys,

Like anywhere you have to do your time on the road before applying for the ERU etc etc.

Why, just to gain exprienence, coming from college with a degree do not gurantee and easy ride, when your time is done you can apply where-ever.

As for sgt's exam you would be lucky to be sgt within your first 10 years unless your lucky and a vacancy arises.

Also Note joining the Likes of the FCA etc goes in your favour.

Good look to all, I am in for it aswell hopefully the Traffic Corps...

Horeb

jonny68 wrote:

If your like http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0831/morris you`ll be ok.......

Do you ever pi5ss of ya moron :mad:

jonny68

Horeb-Security wrote:

Do you ever pi5ss of ya moron :mad:

Stop it my Israeli supporting friend your hurting my feelings......... :rolleyes:

WhiteWashMan

any more rubbish from the garda wannabies here, and theres going to be 4 or 5 names going onto the little black book.

give it a rest.

Divine

Tell the ****ing pig to shut up then!!

OFDM

It's true you can become a detective without being a sergeant first isn't it? And how does a detective sergeant fit in relative to other detectives. Presumably they all report to an inspector?

D!ve^Bomb!

i think you're trying to run before you can walk.. relax.. it's not gonna hapen anytime soon.. just be prepared to be transfered to the country if you're in Dublin.. and if you alreadyv live in the country then be prepared to be transfered to Dublin.. also be ready to 'walk the beat' in ****ty weather and deal with utter ****e everyday.. good luck

OFDM

newband wrote:

i think you're trying to run before you can walk.. relax.. it's not gonna hapen anytime soon..

There's nothing wrong with knowing what the promotion/transfer possibilities are - it's not something you'd ignore when applying for any other job...

ando

L5 wrote:

does anyone know how much more money you're offered if you sign up with a degree?

I'd like to know if they pay extra for industry standard qualifications, like MCSE's, Cisco and the like

ando

OFDM wrote:

It's true you can become a detective without being a sergeant first isn't it?

yes my brother has been a detective for a few yrs and is only taking the sergent test now

WhiteWashMan

jonny68 and divine banned from work forum.

Chalk

is it true they only give you 170 euro a week for your 4 yrs training?

does anyone know what the payscale for regualr garda maxes out at?
and can you just keep earning more and more if you move onto detective or is there an overall limit to earnings?

thanks

OFDM

Chalk wrote:

is it true they only give you 170 euro a week for your 4 yrs training?

does anyone know what the payscale for regualr garda maxes out at?
and can you just keep earning more and more if you move onto detective or is there an overall limit to earnings?

thanks

Garda Pay Scale

1 years service €23,973
2 years service €26,096
3 years service €28,925
4 years service €30,796
5 years service €32,489
6-10 years service €34,116
11-16 years service €35,531
17 years service and after €37,129

Figures do not include allowances or overtime. (pay scales as and from 1.10.02)

One additional increment if you have at least 1 Grade B Honours and 3 Grade C Honours in the leaving cert or three additional increments if you have a 3rd level diploma or degree.

The increments are payable upon two years completion of service with An Garda Siochana.

Probationer Garda (Phases IV & V - 42 weeks total) will be paid €22,523 rising by increments to a maximum of €40,472 per annum (July, 2004 rates). Members of the service may also qualify for rent and other allowances

When training (2 years not 4):
Phase I & III (in Garda College) and annual leave (20 + 16 + 2 weeks):
€169.46 per week + €68.18 per week allowance for food and accommodation.
Phase II (in a Garda Station - 22 weeks):
€169.46 per week + €115 per week allowance for food and accommodation.

WhiteWashMan

OFDM wrote:

Garda Pay Scale

1 years service €23,973
2 years service €26,096
3 years service €28,925
4 years service €30,796
5 years service €32,489
6-10 years service €34,116
11-16 years service €35,531
17 years service and after €37,129

Figures do not include allowances or overtime. (pay scales as and from 1.10.02)

One additional increment if you have at least 1 Grade B Honours and 3 Grade C Honours in the leaving cert or three additional increments if you have a 3rd level diploma or degree.

The increments are payable upon two years completion of service with An Garda Siochana.

Probationer Garda (Phases IV & V - 42 weeks total) will be paid €22,523 rising by increments to a maximum of €40,472 per annum (July, 2004 rates). Members of the service may also qualify for rent and other allowances

When training (2 years not 4):
Phase I & III (in Garda College) and annual leave (20 + 16 + 2 weeks):
€169.46 per week + €68.18 per week allowance for food and accommodation.
Phase II (in a Garda Station - 22 weeks):
€169.46 per week + €115 per week allowance for food and accommodation.

and all the free beer you can drink from your local publican, but only while you are on-duty

Horeb

Eventhough I am going for it, recruits in the army earn twice as much in there first 6 months of training.

169 is about 30 euros more than the dole, tbh it is very bad for a trainee even to be on it is below minimum wage.

this will repell a lot of people as it is for 58 weeks.

and the standard rates after appointment are a lot less than the PSNI

Why I ask so low for such a dangerous and responsible job.

Yes there is OT etc but as a friend told me she said only after her fourth year she really started to make a decent wage.

In a nutshell emergency services dont get paid enough

FX Meister

I hope you don't speak the same way as you type. But eveb if you don't then you might need some practise to get past stage 2 Written Communication. Maybe you are foreign though and English is not your first language? Good luck anyway.

Horeb

funny guy

landser

i got the gardai a few years back, but turned them down. when i had my first interview with the Super in Santry, he spoke to me for about 20minutes about how boring the job was and how thick most gardai were, and that since i had a degree i'd hate it. he didn;t put me off, the offer of other employment did. most of my clan are members, so i knew what i'd be getting into. i do have a mate in a specialised unit, and he outearns almost everyone i know cos of the allowances and o/t

there is no real official fast track promotion in ireland for those with higher level education, as opposed to the uk.

as for the exams, they're easy. it's to make sure you can read and write. the physical examination isn;t too tough either

GospelGroupie

Horeb-Security wrote:

169 is about 30 euros more than the dole, tbh it is very bad for a trainee even to be on it is below minimum wage.

this will repell a lot of people as it is for 58 weeks.:(

True, you're likely to run up some debt in the first two to three years, but that's what the incredible St. Pauls and St. Raphaels' Credit Unions are for.

The St. Pauls Medical Aid Society offers better than any cover you'd get from BUPA or VHI. You earn at least €10,000 in shift-allowance and other allowances on top of your basic pay after the 15 months, that is when you get attested (the badge, the powers to arrest, etc.).

This is all public knowledge, nothing I'm telling you is confidential, but it makes the job worthwhile, along with the public adulation and job satisfaction. (note sarcasm).

Horeb-Security wrote:

and the standard rates after appointment are a lot less than the PSNI

Would you really like to work in Northern Ireland as a nip (northern ireland police) being a Catholic? The loyalists will hate you for being Catholic and the Shinners will hate you for being a traitor. No thank you!

Horeb

I'm a presbie

GospelGroupie

Horeb-Security wrote:

I'm a presbie

Good for you, you'll still be hated by all the taigues, and all the gougers. Go for it, if you're completely insane!

Or stay south, it ain't so bad!

Horeb

At least up north you get a gun

Victor

Horeb-Security wrote:

169 is about 30 euros more than the dole, tbh it is very bad for a trainee even to be on it is below minimum wage. this will repell a lot of people as it is for 58 weeks.

But think of what the average degree / doctorate student get in terms of a grant and compare that.

seamus

Horeb-Security wrote:

169 is about 30 euros more than the dole, tbh it is very bad for a trainee even to be on it is below minimum wage.

this will repell a lot of people as it is for 58 weeks.

In a nutshell emergency services dont get paid enough

It's still kind of stuck in the days when everyone lived with their mammies until they got married. A young fella (or girl) heads off to join the Gardai. While they're living at the academy, they spend all their money on booze, and while they're stationed, they stay with their parents or a relative (free food), or get 7 trainees together to rent one place, and spend all their money on booze. Those days have gone. The wage needs to reflect that.

Horeb

seamus wrote:

It's still kind of stuck in the days when everyone lived with their mammies until they got married. A young fella (or girl) heads off to join the Gardai. While they're living at the academy, they spend all their money on booze, and while they're stationed, they stay with their parents or a relative (free food), or get 7 trainees together to rent one place, and spend all their money on booze. Those days have gone. The wage needs to reflect that.

Good point, the army (recruits) is 341 per week now that is a little better than the above, in the short term it hurts the pocket in the long term well it works out okay. :cool: