NPPR issue

thestar

A relative of mine lives in the states sold a holiday home in Killarney. She is having a disagreement with her solicitor as he is telling her that she has to pay a huge bill to revenue? She is saying in the region of 1/3 of the price she sold the house for. Could this be correct?

Roanmore

A friend of mine sold a house he was renting out a few months ago, had to pay about 8k becaude he didnt pay the NPPR.

Fred Swanson

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thestar

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Thanks for the response Fred. I know the information is all there but could one potentially end up with a bill of around 30k? Is the NPPR done away with now?

Agent_47

Everybody knew about paying for this, I could not remember a tax more flagged in the media by Government. I had to pay it on 2 properties. There will always be a few people to try it on and look to get away without paying their taxes in this country. In my view it is a tax owed and is required to be paid.

VincePP

Get her to talk directly to kerry co co. They will negotiate.

The fines/ penalties are maximum and are negotiable.

Maximum seems to be €7230. Councils are known to be understanding where owners have lived abroad.

HeidiHeidi

I thought the tax/penalty for not having paid the NPPR at all, ever, was capped at something over €7000? Can't remember the exact figure.

It was only in for a few years before the LPT came in.

I can't see it having accumulated to the region of 30 grand.

ETA - all clearly explained here http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/owning_a_home/home_owners/new_local_authority_charges_on_residential_property.html

amdublin

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/owning_a_home/home_owners/new_local_authority_charges_on_residential_property.html


Thank god. It seems to be gone now.


I paid mine. But glad it's gone.

VincePP

Agent_47 wrote: »

Everybody knew about paying for this, I could not remember a tax more flagged in the media by Government.

Did you read the OP?

Owner lives in USA - and whilst i can't be certain, somehow i doubt it made news anywhere in the states and neither was it advertised outside Ireland.

athtrasna

VincePP wrote: »

Did you read the OP?

Owner lives in USA - and whilst i can't be certain, somehow i doubt it made news anywhere in the states and neither was it advertised outside Ireland.

Yes but if you have a financial interest in another country then the onus is on you to stay informed regarding tax liabilities and obligations. This situation could have been easily avoided.

thestar

Did the property tax replace NPPR can anybody tell me?

Fred Swanson

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Roanmore

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I think the person mentioned in the OP may have a chance of negoiating with the council but it would be a lot more difficult for somebody living here who wants to sell their house.

My friend got no joy, they knew he was selling and had him over a barrell.

VincePP

athtrasna wrote: »

Yes but if you have a financial interest in another country then the onus is on you to stay informed regarding tax liabilities and obligations. This situation could have been easily avoided.

That's easy to say, but nppr was a totally new tax that was only applicable for a short period. As no database was available, no notice of the tax was provided, and as it is not reasonable for someone living abroad to be reading local newspaper notices, this was unfair to those living outside Ireland and they would have a good arguable case for withdrawal of penalties.

Victor

VincePP wrote: »

Did you read the OP?

Owner lives in USA

So, well used to the idea of property taxes?

Arbiter of Good Taste

Victor wrote: »

So, well used to the idea of property taxes?

In the US, not in Ireland. Arguably, if the owner had an agent managing the property for the, then they should have advised them, but otherwise I doubt the owner was regularly keeping an eye on Irish media just in case the government decided to introduce a new tax.

The fact is, it's hard enough to keep track of some taxes when you live here - I had a simple question myself about NPPR and couldn't get a straight answer out of the county council - so I have sympathy in this situation where the owner lived abroad.

mickdw

Just over 7 thousand is the max figure for a property that never had the tax paid and was in existence for the entire period.
I read that this tax won't be collected after 12 years lapse.

VincePP

Victor wrote: »

So, well used to the idea of property taxes?

Yes, and the local state office will actually send you a bill to your address and not assume that a few adverts will suffice.

Remember, nothing was sent to any address. No bills, no demands, no notices sent. It was the most appalling implementation of a charge/tax ever.

There is a good reason that no council has taken a single case of non payment to court - the penalties simply would not stand up.

mickdw

VincePP wrote: »

Yes, and the local state office will actually send you a bill to your address and not assume that a few adverts will suffice.

Remember, nothing was sent to any address. No bills, no demands, no notices sent. It was the most appalling implementation of a charge/tax ever.

There is a good reason that no council has taken a single case of non payment to court - the penalties simply would not stand up.

Yes this tax existed for 4 years - €800 total.
Its criminal that this can be built up to over 7k in penalties.
Surely double would have been fair.

Kristopherus

mickdw wrote: »

Yes this tax existed for 4 years - €800 total.
Its criminal that this can be built up to over 7k in penalties.
Surely double would have been fair.

And people nearly voted FF back in after that debacle:mad: