TEN-T priority upgrades?

marno21

Any more information on this tender that went out today?

According to anfield1978 here , consultancy services are required for 3 major schemes in Donegal, one of those being the N15 Ballybofey bypass.

Neither of the schemes are in the Capital Investment Plan, and are there other required upgrades needed around the country?

annfield1978

Another one is the Study to Convert the N7 between Red Cow and Naas to Motorway Standard as it on the Ten-T Network

PQQs for Consultants issued for Stage 1 of NRA PM Guidelines so tender documents due shortly for the intial study

Chris_5339762

Motorway/DC to Foynes along the N69 is one (but this is sensibly being done as an extension of the M20/N21 with an Adare bypass thrown in.

marno21

Tender for the three schemes in Donegal went out today, previous one was only a PIN.

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=99375&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

annfield1978

annfield1978 wrote: »

Another one is the Study to Convert the N7 between Red Cow and Naas to Motorway Standard as it on the Ten-T Network

PQQs for Consultants issued for Stage 1 of NRA PM Guidelines so tender documents due shortly for the intial study

This tender was abandoned by Kildare Co Co last week

annfield1978

Ten T Tender issued by Donegal Co Co

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/rfqview.asp?PID=99375

marno21

CORE:

Dublin - Belfast (M1)
Dublin - Cork (M7/M8)
Dublin - Limerick (M7)
Cork - Ringaskiddy (M28*)
Limerick - Foynes (M7/M21/N69*)

COMPREHENSIVE:
Dublin - Derry (M1/N33/N2)
Dublin - Sligo (N4)
Dublin - Westport (N4/N5)
Dublin - Galway (N6*)
Dublin - Waterford (M9)
Dublin - Wexford (N11)
Cork - Tralee (N22)
Cork - Limerick (N20)
Cork - Waterford (N25)
Limerick - Galway (N18)
Galway - Sligo (N17)
Sligo - Enniskillen (N16)
Sligo - Ballybofey (N15)
Ballybofey - Derry (N13)
Letterkenny - Lifford (N14)

Schemes to be done:

CORE:

M7 Naas - Red Cow upgrade
M8/N25 Dunkettle Interchange (shovel ready - due start 2018)
M28 Cork - Ringaskiddy (planning)
M21/N69 Limerick - Foynes (planning)

Comprehensive:
A5 Western Transport Corridor (Phase 1A 2017 start)
N2 Clontibret - Border (suspended)
N4 Castlebaldwin - Collooney (2017 start)
N4 Carrick on Shannon - Dromod (suspended)
N4 Rooskey - Mullingar (suspended)
N5 Westport - Turlough (2017 start)
N5 Ballaghaderreen - Scramoge (planning)
N6 Galway City Outer Bypass (2018 or after start)
N11/M11 widening & reconfiguration Bray - Coyne's Cross (due before 2035)
M11 Enniscorthy bypass (at construction)
M11 Oilgate Bypass + N11/N25 Oilgate - Rosslare Harbour (unknown)
N13 Letterkenny - Stranorlar (suspended)
N13/N15 Ballybofey/Stranorlar bypass (planning)
N14 Letterkenny - Lifford (planning)
N15 Sligo - County Boundary (suspended)
N16 Sligo - County Boundary (suspended) + N16 Leitrim section (suspended) - however minor stretches are being realigned
M17/M18 Gort - Tuam (construction - due early 2018)
N17 Tuam BP (due 2018)
N17 Tuam/Claremorris (suspended)
N17 Knock - Tobercurry (suspended)
N17 Tobercurry BP (suspended)
N17 Tobercurry - Collooney (suspended)
M20 Cork - Limerick (suspended)
M21 Adare - Rathkeale (planning)
N21 Adare - Feale Bridge (suspended - Adare-Rathkeale section being progressed seperately)
N22 Macroom - Ovens (suspended)
N22 Macroom - Baile Bhuirne (planning - due 2024)
N22 Farranfore - Killarney (suspended)
N25 Carrigtwohill - Midleton (suspended)
N25 Midleton - Youghal (suspended)
N25 Dungarven Outer BP (suspended)
N25 Waterford - Glenmore (suspended)
N25 New Ross BP (on site - due 2019)
N40 Cork North Ring Road (suspended)

Think these are all right. Core ones due by 2030 and Comprehensive by 2050 (although many of them were needed yesterday, and a good few more are needed in the medium to long term regardless of what Brussels says)

spaghettifier

A5 may be in doubt now as EU funding will not be available as the UK is leaving the EU.

marno21

spaghettifier wrote: »

A5 may be in doubt now as EU funding will not be available as the UK is leaving the EU.

The Republic of Ireland are giving €25m a year for the next 3 years so it shouldn't be in doubt at all.

spaghettifier

marno21 wrote: »

The Republic of Ireland are giving €25m a year for the next 3 years so it shouldn't be in doubt at all.

Personally I think it should be suspended as it could be totally wasted money now if a border goes back up. How are Donegal goods / services going to make any use of it if there's a customs border or if there's a hard border it's a mess too.

€25m / year for a road we possibly can't use ?!

Also why would the EU provide any assistance? The UK could be gone anytime soon.

Given the totally unpredictable situation, we shouldn't be spending anything on projects like this until we have clarity.

Aspirations and sentimentality aside, we're basically spending money on infrastructure in the UK when the UK is openly threatening to throw a border back up.

That's tens or millions that could go on infrastructure we could use.

The goal posts have been moved since the end of June and we need to ensure we're not lashing hard earned public money on a road sealed off by a border.

I'm not saying cancel it, just park it until Brexit and border arrangements are fully clear. Only then should we be committing to any cross border public funding like this.

marno21

To be honest, there shouldn't be a cent contributed to the A5 project by th RoI government until the N14 is upgraded from Letterkenny to the A5/N14 link bridge near Lifford and also the N2 is upgraded from the border to Ardee.

No point in funding a road in another country if the approach in our country are crap.

spaghettifier

I think we really need absolute clarification on what's happening with Brexit before entering *any* commitment to spend anything in NI.

The referendum has completely undermined the concept of an all-island economy and until we know what's happening it makes absolutely no sense to enter any new public expenditure commitments.

It's an unfortunate situation, but 44% or those who voted in NI and a majority of the UK voted to end the current situation and the NI First Minister campaigned for this.

There are real economic consequences to political decisions like this. It's not just some abstract political discussion.

It's not really very reasonable or fair on the tax payer in the Republic to commit to spending anything further in Northern Ireland until we know what's happening in terms of access and use of this infrastructure. The whole concept is that they're shared facilities that benefit both communities.

cgcsb

There were border checks in the 1990s despite the fact that Ireland and the UK had been EU members for over 20 years. Ireland and the UK were never part of schengen and we had a common travel area long before we joined the EU so there is no reason to start throwing up borders now.

spaghettifier

We didn't have any north south bodies or this level of corporation until after the EU full single market and end of customs barriers came into being.

The CTA has absolutely nothing to do with trade and never had.

The problem is that we are and will continue to be in the EU customs zone while the a UK will leave it. The CTA (if retained) will allow movement of but the UK-EU agreements on whatever customs arrangements they come up with will dictate goods and services.

Even if we left the EU there's no guarantee we could negotiate a fair or beneficial customs arrangement with the UK and we would be the weak party in any agreement. So, it's really quite a mess of a situation.

So really until this situation between the UK and the EU is resolved, the only sensible thing to do is suspend any spending in NI from our budgets. I don't think that's in anyway unreasonable, given the circumstances. Everything has been predicted on the fact that there's no barriers to trade or movement. That paradigm no longer exists once they sign Article 50.

We need an actual plan for how cross-border infrastructure will work. Westminster didn't give it any thought at all as most of them don't seem to realise they have a land border with an EU member and they don't agree facilities with any continental country.

There's a rake of crossborder infrastructure both public (roads, rail, investment in airports, health cooperation, crossborder bodies etc) and private : telecoms, gas, electricity etc.

All of those things need to be planned for and weren't.

The A5 is just one project of potentially hundreds that will be made a hell of a lot more complex.

annfield1978

Donegal Ten T due to be formally awarded to a consultant next week

marno21

It's good to see the N13/N56, N14 & N15 schemes going back into proper planning, but they should be doing this with more than just these three Donegal schemes.

M20 for one.