Moving to marry in Ireland,what to say on border control?

mchiareli

Hey Guys,

My fiance is EU Citizen and she lives in Ireland already. Soon I am flying to move there and we are getting married.

I have with me the appointment for the civil ceremony and all papers from her work and residence proof. Would I have any problem in border control if I tell them I am there to marry/move? As a visitor I am allowed to stay in the country for 90 days, but I don't feel like its a good idea to omit my purpose.

I never lived in Ireland before and I am going to apply to the stamp4 after the wedding.

Thanks

Kristopherus

Are you a citizen of the E.U.?

mchiareli

Kristopherus wrote: »

Are you a citizen of the E.U.?

no. she is.

My question is should i be very explicit that i am entering the country to get married or just say i am there as a tourist?

GM228

Why would there be a problem telling them the truth?

With issues like this it's always best to decalre the truth, if you don't it could have repercussions in the future and anything you say may be doubted.

Steve

If you had the correct immigration paperwork done and are complying with the 'sham marriage' legislation then you would not even need to ask this.

Pretend you are a tourist, move in, buy a house, in fact buy lots of stuff, because when you get deported the honest taxpayer here will get it and benefit when you lose it all.

Alternatively, get the correct documentation, your choice.

Do you even know the person you are coming here to marry?

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Steve wrote: »

If you had the correct immigration paperwork done and are complying with the 'sham marriage' legislation then you would not even need to ask this.

Pretend you are a tourist, move in, buy a house, in fact buy lots of stuff, because when you get deported the honest taxpayer here will get it and benefit when you lose it all.

Alternatively, get the correct documentation, your choice.

Do you even know the person you are coming here to marry?

jaysus :eek:

mchiareli

GM228 wrote: »

Why would there be a problem telling them the truth?

With issues like this it's always best to decalre the truth, if you don't it could have repercussions in the future and anything you say may be doubted.

I don't have any issues telling the truth, just a bit concerned cuz I called the immigration office and they said it's not 100% sure the border will let me in.

i am just showing all papers to them.

Thanks guys.

mchiareli

Steve wrote: »

Do you even know the person you are coming here to marry?

Really??? i will take this as a joke. =P

Steve

Apologies if your story is genuine, mchiareli, I've seen a lot who weren't and they tend to prejudice immigration officers against those that are.

First question then: can you support yourself here? i.e. do you have a job lined up? Do you have a sponsor to say so?

My friend's practice deals a lot in immigration law. The fact that you are coming here to marry will be weak.

ohnonotgmail

What do you plan to do once the 90 days are up?

cobhguy28

You have to give 3 months notice to get married.

mchiareli

Steve wrote: »

Apologies if your story is genuine, mchiareli, I've seen a lot who weren't and they tend to prejudice immigration officers against those that are.

First question then: can you support yourself here? i.e. do you have a job lined up? Do you have a sponsor to say so?

My friend's practice deals a lot in immigration law. The fact that you are coming here to marry will be weak.

Oh no problem, I know about the situation, I have a interview scheduled in immigration office about the wedding.

She lives in Ireland already, for about 2 years now, has a permanent job and I will have some cash with me.

I have all the papers from her residence, job contract and also the wedding appointment to proof, we did the appointment last November.

mchiareli

cobhguy28 wrote: »

You have to give 3 months notice to get married.

We got the appointment November last year. I am not flying there to sort things to get married, everything is already set, I have the date, an interview in immigration office, i have with me all papers to prove she is a resident in ireland and has a permanent job.

esforum

GM228 wrote: »

Why would there be a problem telling them the truth?

With issues like this it's always best to decalre the truth, if you don't it could have repercussions in the future and anything you say may be doubted.

Because if he tells the truth his application for entry could be rejected. He is also admitting to be looking for a stamp 4 as soon as the ink is dry on the paperwork.

On this occasion though it seems like everythings already been arranged and there should be no issues, I would show them all the paperwork you already have and that should be that, they will give you a 90 day entry and then you will need to sort residency within that timeframe

Steve

If she is already EU then you will need to prove it is an 'enduring and durable' relationship.

EU Treaty rights will apply and will entitle you to a 6 month visa.

Beyond that, and how to get them, you will need to employ a legal professional.

mchiareli

Thanks guys, it confirms what i was thinking, i will show my papers in the airport and tell my purpose.