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Construction drawings.

  • 29-02-2016 9:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7


    Hi, i will soon be building a new house. I have paid 3k already to an architect for plans and now he said it will be another 1k for construction specification drawings. Is this the norm? Would a builder be able to build a house for me with the plans i already have or will I end up paying another 1k.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    mikeom wrote: »
    Hi, i will soon be building a new house. I have paid 3k already to an architect for plans and now he said it will be another 1k for construction specification drawings. Is this the norm? Would a builder be able to build a house for me with the plans i already have or will I end up paying another 1k.

    Your 3k was most like for planning permission fees and drawings which is a very very good price for a new dwelling.

    Who now prepares your construction drawings will have to detail exact foundation design, reinforcement design, structural elements, insulation, renewables, and a BER calculation and survey has to be done to ensure compliance with Part L.

    Who is signing off on the build?
    Sounds like you are getting full planning and construction drawings for 4K which is a bargain!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 mikeom


    Thanks for your reply kceire. This will be my first time doing a new build. I'm told i need to get a certified assignor. Could you explain to me please, exactly who does what?
    Am I correct in saying that my architect needs to do construction drawings and then a certified assignor signs off at each stage of the build? Do you know the average cost for a certified assignor? I'm in county cork. Thanks again for your help.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    mikeom wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply kceire. This will be my first time doing a new build. I'm told i need to get a certified assignor. Could you explain to me please, exactly who does what?
    Am I correct in saying that my architect needs to do construction drawings and then a certified assignor signs off at each stage of the build? Do you know the average cost for a certified assignor? I'm in county cork. Thanks again for your help.

    You have the option of appointing an Assigned certifier or not now.
    Google SI365 of 2015.

    Normally the Assigned Certifier prepares the construction drawings as it is him/her that is signing off on the project. Prices range from anything from €5k up here in Dublin.

    One recent new build in North County Dublin, the AC price was €7k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭RORY O CONNOR


    kceire wrote: »
    You have the option of appointing an Assigned certifier or not now.
    Google SI365 of 2015.

    Normally the Assigned Certifier prepares the construction drawings as it is him/her that is signing off on the project. Prices range from anything from €5k up here in Dublin.

    One recent new build in North County Dublin, the AC price was €7k.

    Under the rules the role/obligations of the AC is to only ensure that the build is done to current building regulations unless the AC is providing additional services. The design /construction drawings need to be done so you can get the work properly quoted for.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Under the rules the role/obligations of the AC is to only ensure that the build is done to current building regulations unless the AC is providing additional services. The design /construction drawings need to be done so you can get the work properly quoted for.

    Yes, completely true. my experience in Dublin is that 99% of AC's prepare the construction drawings. I have currently only come across one site where the AC is simply co-ordinating the project.;


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    kceire wrote: »
    Yes, completely true. my experience in Dublin is that 99% of AC's prepare the construction drawings. I have currently only come across one site where the AC is simply co-ordinating the project.;

    agreed
    Writing on the liability attaching to Design Certifiers under these regulations, Mr Denis McDonald SC wrote last March: “It is the certifier who is taking the responsibility of certifying compliance with the requirements of the Second Schedule to the Building Regulations. In addition, it would appear that the certifier is undertaking to certify compliance with the “plans, calculations, specifications, ancillary certificates and particulars listed in the Schedule …”. This is a significant responsibility and there does not appear to be any provision made for the fact that the certifier may have had no input into all of the plans, calculations, specifications and ancillary certificates and particulars referred to.

    in the vast majority of cases the assigned certifer will have input into calculations, specifications and particulars of a project because ultimately he/she is the one who has to take responsibility for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 mikeom


    Thanks to everybody who replied. I am going to get a few prices for AC's and a few for architect/engineers as i may opt out of the AC if they are too expensive. My bank has told me that I can opt out if I want once a architect or engineer signs off at the different required stages. I will let you all know.


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