Correct Saorview Ariel

54and56

Hi,

I recently purchased a quad tuner box to "ditch Sky" as so many are doing but retain the option to watch and record channels on both Saorview and FTA. I have finally figured out how to set up the FTA satellite channels and have all that running smooth but I can't get a decent Saorview signal with the indoor ariel I have so I'm going to have to install a proper Saorview ariel either in the loft or on the mount the satellite dish is on.

As I'm happy with the new set up I'm thinking or replicating it in a 2nd room which currently has a twin tuner Sky box so ultimately from a Saorview point of view I'm going to want two feeds from the Saorview ariel to the 2 X DVB-C/T/T2's in the quad box in one room and two more feeds going to the same setup in the other room. Does this mean I need a Saorview ariel which will have four outputs or can I just run one cable to each location then split the signal in two using either a splitter like this



or by running a Coax cable from the the loop out of Tuner A into the RF In of Tuner B if that's even possible??

Here is a picture of the rear of the box.



Thanks in advance.

Sam Russell

What you do is buy two of these - http://www.freetv.ie/tv-aerial-and-satellite-combiner.html

Put an external Soarview aerial near your satellite dish and combine one of the LNB outputs with the output from the TV aerial.

At the TV end, use the second one the other way around so one input / two outputs. The satellite output goes to the sat tuner and the UHF output goes to the UHF input on the combi. Then make a short loop and connect the loop out from that tuner and connect to the input to the second UHF tuner.

That is it. No need for the splitter.

If you are doing it yourself, do it in stages. You have the sat end working, so install the UHF aerial and check it is working (pointing in the right direction and the right polarity). Should be straight forward.

54and56

Sam Russell wrote: »

What you do is buy two of these - http://www.freetv.ie/tv-aerial-and-satellite-combiner.html

Put an external Soarview aerial near your satellite dish and combine one of the LNB outputs with the output from the TV aerial.

At the TV end, use the second one the other way around so one input / two outputs. The satellite output goes to the sat tuner and the UHF output goes to the UHF input on the combi. Then make a short loop and connect the loop out from that tuner and connect to the input to the second UHF tuner.

That is it. No need for the splitter.

If you are doing it yourself, do it in stages. You have the sat end working, so install the UHF aerial and check it is working (pointing in the right direction and the right polarity). Should be straight forward.

Thanks Sam,

I think I get it but would appreciate your confirmation.

1. Erect and test a Saorview ariel with a loose cable to the DVB-C/T/T2 tuner on the STB.
2. Cut the cable from one of the satellite LNB's and feed it into one of the combining two ports on the splitter and feed a short output cable from the ariel to the 2nd combining port on the splitter.
3. Fit the cut satellite cable into the splitter output port.
4. Remove the satellite input from the STB and reverse the process with the cables so the splitter is now producing two output cables.
5. Plug the satellite output from the STB splitter into the DVB-S/S2 tuner and the the Saorview output from the STB splitter into the DVB-C/T/T2 Tuner A.
6. Use an old coax cable to loop out from Tuner A to the input of Tuner B.

The result of 1-6 will be that I have 4 feeds (2 X sat and 2 X Saorview) going into the box. Correct?

If that is the case, how can I replicate that setup on a 2nd quad box located in another room? I can understand splitting another LNB cable which is feeding the 2nd box but where will I get a Saorview feed for the splitter? Do I have to erect a 2nd ariel or can I get a Saorview ariel which has two outputs thus allowing me to replicate the splitting solution to two different boxes?

^^ Hope that makes some sense!!

Sam Russell

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Thanks Sam,

I think I get it but would appreciate your confirmation.

1. Erect and test a Saorview ariel with a loose cable to the DVB-C/T/T2 tuner on the STB.
2. Cut the cable from one of the satellite LNB's and feed it into one of the combining two ports on the splitter and feed a short output cable from the ariel to the 2nd combining port on the splitter.
3. Fit the cut satellite cable into the splitter output port.
4. Remove the satellite input from the STB and reverse the process with the cables so the splitter is now producing two output cables.
5. Plug the satellite output from the STB splitter into the DVB-S/S2 tuner and the the Saorview output from the STB splitter into the DVB-C/T/T2 Tuner A.
6. Use an old coax cable to loop out from Tuner A to the input of Tuner B.

The result of 1-6 will be that I have 4 feeds (2 X sat and 2 X Saorview) going into the box. Correct?

Correct.

If that is the case, how can I replicate that setup on a 2nd quad box located in another room? I can understand splitting another LNB cable which is feeding the 2nd box but where will I get a Saorview feed for the splitter? Do I have to erect a 2nd ariel or can I get a Saorview ariel which has two outputs thus allowing me to replicate the splitting solution to two different boxes?

^^ Hope that makes some sense!!

Now if the second box has a sat cable, you do the same. Split the aerial output using the splitter in your original post, then repeat for a second LNB output as above. Your splitter will reduce the aerial output by quite a bit but you should have enough signal.

A few options. Use a different LNB that includes the splitter so each output has both signals. Alternatively use a splitter that combines the 2 LNB outputs at once. Look at these products.

http://www.satworld.ie/inverto-pro-quad-terrestrial-lnb.html

http://www.satworld.ie/satellite-and-terrestrial-combiner-outdoor-for-2-tvs.html

I have no association with any of the companies I have referenced.

winston_1

Personally I wouldn't bother combining aerial and satellite signals on one cable. Too many losses and often problems. Put up an aerial. Use the splitter in the first post to get a feed to the two locations. Then loop tuner A output to tuner B input.

Carawaystick

winston_1 wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't bother combining aerial and satellite signals on one cable. Too many losses and often problems.

Unless the OP doesn't want 2 more ugly cables routing about his home...

slinky2000

Carawaystick wrote: »

Unless the OP doesn't want 2 more ugly cables routing about his home...

I hear ya.

I was in this dilemma a few months ago, but I ended up running 2 separate cables to each room (1 sat 1 saorview) to save on complexities with technology now and in the future.

The only issue I have is there's a serious amount of cables coming down the side of the house now. 4 rooms * 2 cables = 8 coming from the dish/aerial location.

Sam Russell

I have used diplexers in my own house, and an LNB with a built in diplexer in a friends house and both work flawlessly. It makes the cable runs so much easier. The additional diplexer at the TV fits in behind the TV so no problem there. Additional cost is less than the cost of additional cables would be plus it is much neater.

54and56

Sam Russell wrote: »

I have used diplexers in my own house, and an LNB with a built in diplexer in a friends house and both work flawlessly. It makes the cable runs so much easier. The additional diplexer at the TV fits in behind the TV so no problem there. Additional cost is less than the cost of additional cables would be plus it is much neater.

This is the solution I'll be getting. I'd rather not have any more cables running around the house than I already have!!

slinky2000

What box are you using with the quad tuner and loop outs in the picture there?

Kristopherus

slinky2000 wrote: »

What box are you using with the quad tuner and loop outs in the picture there?

This one: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057560496