Pat McQuaid Book

irishpeloton · 23-02-2016 1:15pm #1

Seems like Pat McQuaid is working on a book. He hopes to publish before the end of the year.

Should be interesting.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Pat-mcquaid-l-uci-me-decoit-beaucoup/636955

check_six · 23-02-2016 1:20pm

Can't wait till they translate the book from his native thai to english.

Wishbone Ash · 23-02-2016 1:28pm

Will we find it in the modern fiction section?

1bryan · 23-02-2016 1:49pm

I'd imagine a few people on here might be in for a mention!

godtabh · 23-02-2016 2:36pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Will we find it in the modern fiction section?

Surely science fiction?

Beasty · 23-02-2016 2:39pm

1bryan wrote: »

I'd imagine a few people on here might be in for a mention!

One of my heroes, that McQuaid fella......

Eamonnator · 23-02-2016 2:59pm

I hope "MUM FOR MEN" gets a mention.

CramCycle · 23-02-2016 3:27pm

Disappointed to find out that a "sexagenarian" means someone in their 60s

RobFowl · 23-02-2016 3:51pm

Genuinely interested, could be quite a good book nd certainly has a few stories to tell.
Was by all accounts a clean rider even as a pro back in the day. Didn't go for a continental outfit for that reason.
His tenure as UCI president was controversial and in many ways disappointing but the useless Cookson does put it into some perspective....

MPFGLB · 23-02-2016 4:09pm

Wouldn't it be great id it were full of stories of hotel rooms, coke & hookers

But i guess it will be mostly about UCI protocol , etc

Cape Clear · 23-02-2016 4:28pm

Introduction by Lance Armstrong eplilogue by Paul Kimmage

wav1 · 23-02-2016 7:48pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Genuinely interested, could be quite a good book nd certainly has a few stories to tell.
Was by all accounts a clean rider even as a pro back in the day. Didn't go for a continental outfit for that reason.
His tenure as UCI president was controversial and in many ways disappointing but the useless Cookson does put it into some perspective....

Well said.Did a lot of good things regardless of where people stood on the whole nomination thing.Like us all a mixture of good and not so good.

ragazzo · 23-02-2016 8:59pm

wav1 wrote: »

Well said.Did a lot of good things regardless of where people stood on the whole nomination thing.Like us all a mixture of good and not so good.

Agree with Wav1.
He did plenty of good for the sport despite what some people feel the need to claim.
Some of his ideas did not appeal to me and as for the clamour to remove him as head of the UCI and replace him with Cookson...how is that working out?

RobFowl · 23-02-2016 9:08pm

ragazzo wrote: »

the clamour to remove him as head of the UCI and replace him with Cookson

The 2 issues are not the same.
Many including me felt he needed to step down due to the lack of accountability and responsibility taken for the myriad of problems in cycling.
Cookson as UCI president was in many peoples mind (including mine) a poor alternative and I for one was extremely disappointed that others did not step up as stand for election.

ragazzo · 23-02-2016 10:59pm

RobFowl wrote: »

The 2 issues are not the same.
Many including me felt he needed to step down due to the lack of accountability and responsibility taken for the myriad of problems in cycling.
Cookson as UCI president was in many peoples mind (including mine) a poor alternative and I for one was extremely disappointed that others did not step up as stand for election.

Your reasoning is valid to a point but was there any other candidate, apart from Cookson, who you preferred and who was in the running for the job.
I cannot remember any candidates who might have improved the situation within the sports international governing body and who stood a chance of being elected and replacing Mr McQuaid.

irishpeloton · 24-02-2016 9:36am

ragazzo wrote: »

He did plenty of good for the sport despite what some people feel the need to claim.

He did plenty of good for the sport in addition to what some people feel the need to claim.

RobFowl · 24-02-2016 10:42am

I have to say I stand by actions asking him to stand down and feel if he had an open election would not have returned Cookson.
Others who felt they would lose against an incumbent would have stood.
Cookson (who is a buffoon) was an alternative establishment figure others felt they could control IMO.
My personal preference at the time was Tracey Gaudry.

PMQ did a lot of good but failed to make a proper stand against rampant doping which nearly and may yet kill off the sport.
Cookson is IMO not doing any better and in many ways is worse.

I saw a good tweet saying that Cookson is doing as badly as PMQ in the fight against doping but at least Pat was interesting

PMQ showed guts in the pledge to give a years salary back if tested positive and Bettini ridiculed him publicly for it. Unfortunately he got little support and then backed down. If he has stood up and fought that I would have given him my full support...

CramCycle · 24-02-2016 11:26am

I don't hold it against him, he wasn't the right man for the job, nothing personal. He had the potential at the start but never realised it, nothing more, nothing less.

I also thought Tracey Gaudry would have been a good choice but not sure is she not doing much regards doping as VP or if she has no remit to do it, seems to be moving on some of Womens cycling issues, albeit slowly.

1bryan · 24-02-2016 1:28pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Cookson is IMO not doing any better and in many ways is worse.

I would say a lot worse. At least McQuaid has the excuse (if he needed it) that he was very limited in what he could do with Hein continually breathing down his neck.

Cookson has a free reign. His handling of the Astana situation last winter highlights how ineffective he is.

Beasty · 24-02-2016 1:39pm

1bryan wrote: »

Cookson has a free reign. His handling of the Astana situation last winter highlights how ineffective he is.

He has no free reign. He has to work within the UCI's rules and constitution, which in turn may be influenced or indeed dictated by other organisations such as the IOC and WADA

What do you think he could/should have done in connection with Astana within the relevant rules?

I would just add, Cycling has not been in the headlines in the way it was 2 or more years ago. Soccer and Athletics (and indeed to a lesser extent Tennis) are grabbing more of those headlines now. I doubt that would be the case if what had been going on while McQuaid was around had been allowed to continue

laraghrider · 24-02-2016 1:55pm

1bryan wrote: »

Cookson has a free reign. His handling of the Astana situation last winter highlights how ineffective he is.

I would argue that his handling of the Astana situation highlighted how ineffective the current UCI policies are especially when trying to stand up against any legal challenge.

The starting point should not be a lot of noise about banning teams and riders. The starting point should be completely re-writing the UCI constitution and anti doping policy and eliminating the majority of legal challenges.

1bryan · 24-02-2016 2:33pm

Beasty wrote: »

What do you think he could/should have done in connection with Astana within the relevant rules?

I agree, he couldn't do anything. My point was moreso that I would have hoped to see him pushing for a change in the rules that constrained him.

And my 'free reign' comment was meant in relative terms. Only Pat himself knows how controlling (or otherwise) Hein was. Regardless, Cookson does not have him to worry about.

12 sprocket · 24-02-2016 3:05pm

Beasty wrote: »

He has no free reign. He has to work within the UCI's rules and constitution, which in turn may be influenced or indeed dictated by other organisations such as the IOC and WADA

What do you think he could/should have done in connection with Astana within the relevant rules?

I would just add, Cycling has not been in the headlines in the way it was 2 or more years ago. Soccer and Athletics (and indeed to a lesser extent Tennis) are grabbing more of those headlines now. I doubt that would be the case if what had been going on while McQuaid was around had been allowed to continue

You seem to be missing the point that Cookson got rid of the main UCI anti doping Official (as well as Kelly and Roche from UCI committees ) when he took office and one of the head officials he appointed was head of RUSADA Mr Kamaev who recently died ..... for some of you who might be living in a bubble or mars theres been a few stories about rusada lately.. For a bit of background check out the article here.. Can you imagine the outcry from some of the boardsies if Pat Mc Quaid had made that appointment..Lets face it Beasty Cookson is not Leadership material. however he is fulfilling part of the British Sport strategy of getting officials into key positions on international governing sporting bodies. As in Lord Coe on Athletics body.. And I cant see the brits queuing up to shaft him the way some of the paddies did with Mc Quaid.. http://cyclingtips.com/2015/11/kamaev-suspended-from-uci-anti-doping-commission-after-russian-athletics-scandal/

stecleary · 25-02-2016 7:38am

Found a page from it online

irishpeloton · 25-02-2016 8:09am

12 sprocket wrote: »

And I cant see the brits queuing up to shaft him the way some of the paddies did with Mc Quaid..

Nobody shafted him. Cycling Ireland members were simply given an opportunity to submit their opinion in the form of their clubs vote, which they did, and their voices were heard. I can only presume these opinions were based on the merits of McQuaid's presidency and not out of any desire to 'shaft' him'

As for the 'paddies' comment. You should take pride in the fact that members of Cycling Ireland were capable of making a decision in spite of someone's nationality rather than blindly supporting him because of it. The 'Brits' could learn a lesson from us paddies.

Pat McQuaid Book

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