Importing used car from the UK

TooGood444

Hello.

Looking for some advice on the process of registering my car in Ireland.

Moved to Ireland 2 months ago from the UK and came over on the ferry with my belongings. Have kept the car off road in a locked underground carpool since.

Booked the VRT appointment for next week but seen mentioned i must register the car within 30 days of arriving in the state. As i can't do this can i expect additional charges? Also don't have a pps number yet as i am here within independant means. Is having this VRT appointment a sufficient requirement to obtaining a PPS number?

One last thing received a email with a checklist for the VRT and am unsure which document i need to fill in.

You bring your completed VTRVPD1 (Tan Holders) and Registration Declaration Forms Click here to download this form

You bring your completed VRTVPD2 for Private vehicles Click here to download this form

Am i right in thinking i only need to fill in the 2nd form as i am not a business holder.

Sorry for all the questions im worried about turning up unprepared i appreciate any help.

Thanks.

savagethegoat

lots of info here. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=176389

It may well be that you can import your car VRT free.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/transfer-residence-duty-free-vehicles.html

TooGood444

Appreciate that link thanks.

Ye have owned my car for over 4 years so think i am exempt from VRT. Just mainly worried about not registering it within 30 days of arriving in the state.

Just hoping i don't get grilled by the VRT people about this..

bazz26

You need to be an Irish resident in order to register a car here so you need to sort the PPS bit out first. The 30 day rule only applies when you are an Irish resident afaik.

In order to qualify for the VRT exemption you need to apply to Revenue for it so there are probably forms that need to be filled out and documents provided by you. You will need to prove that you lived and worked in the UK ie that you were resident there. Once you have satisfied Revenue of this they will issue you a VRT exemption letter which you present to the NCT at your VRT appointment. They will process this and then issue you with an Irish registration number for your car. You then go and get registration plates and a few days later you should be able to tax the car.

That's my take on it anyway.

CiniO

TooGood444 wrote: »

Appreciate that link thanks.

Ye have owned my car for over 4 years so think i am exempt from VRT. Just mainly worried about not registering it within 30 days of arriving in the state.

Just hoping i don't get grilled by the VRT people about this..

30 days for registration applies to people resident in Ireland.
As you arrived recently, and still don't have pps I wouldn't be too worried about that as your residency status is not certain

savagethegoat

In any case the penalty would be a percentage of the VRT, which is nil

TooGood444

Thanks all for the great information

Got my PPS number sorted today so look all set.

TooGood444

Hey guys.

Seems i didn't do my homework as well as i thought.

The VRT appointment is tomorrow and i have realised i didn't apply for a exemption notice from revenue. As i understand it i will have to pay VRT without it. What im wondering is am i able to claim this back once it has been proven i am exempt at a later date? I just spoke to someone on the phone and they indicated this but said they weren't 100% sure and to clarify at a different department who don't like picking up their phone.

Thanks again.

gillen

I've just moved back from living in England myself the last two years. I was aware of this rule before going over so picked myself up a Vw Golf 6 months before I was due to move back.

you're correct in saying you can apply for the VRT exemption - it does require an awful lot of proof that you were living in the UK at the time.

As far as I know you need to have the exemption cert before going to do the VRT. As when filling in some of the VRT forms its asks for an exemption reference if you've got one

My advice would be cancel the VRT, get the application for the exemption into the revenue asap (exemption takes between 1 and 2 weeks to get) then book the VRT again. You'll have to pay a fine for not getting the car VRT'd in the first 30 days, but that doesn't matter as you've already gone past it.

Hope that helps

TooGood444

Ye thanks i was thinking to do this myself if there is no way to claim back the vrt paid. Have just downloaded the form to apply for vrt exemption as i was considering paying the damn thing with how much documentation they require as proof. Then realised the VRT is a huge ripoff for what my car is worth so guess going down that road!

Thanks

Coat22

I brought a car in 2 years ago and had an almighty row with them as to the date I brought it in. As the invoice said one date and they went on that as the date of entry into the state (despite all my other paperwork proofing it was actually brought in at a later date)

I ended up having to pay the extra VRT and then spent a few weeks and several tax offices claiming it back but I got it in the end.

Still waiting on an apology from them.......

gillen

what car is it you're importing do you mind me asking?

TooGood444

Its a 06 vauxhall astra. Not worth alot but been a good car so wanted to keep it. Still 50/50 on taking it for the VRT today and trying to claim it back.

bazz26

TooGood444 wrote: »

Its a 06 vauxhall astra. Not worth alot but been a good car so wanted to keep it. Still 50/50 on taking it for the VRT today and trying to claim it back.

You don't have to pay the VRT today, you have 30 days in total to complete the entire registration process. Your exemption letter from Revenue may arrive before then.

TooGood444

Oh ok that makes it easier will take it today thanks.

Have tried to ring the number to start the vrt application a dozen times and it just goes dead every time. Can i take all the documents i need to my local revenue centre and start the application there?

bazz26

Ring your local NCT test centre, they may have more information. Might save you making a trip today if it can be deferred until you get your exemption.

Some online forms here too:
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/forms/#section3

gillen

you fill it all out yourself in your own time and just drop it into your local revenue office.

CiniO

I don't think 30 days to complete registration from the moment vehicle entered Ireland applies in OP's case.
He was UK resident, and came to Ireland with his car as so.
As UK resident he is entitled to keep his UK registered car in Ireland for up to 12 months.

Once he becomes resident in Ireland, indeed he needs to reregister it in Ireland within 30 days, but question is - when exactly does he become resident in Ireland.

I hardly can see how someone could prove he is resident in Ireland before he spends here more than 183 days.

TooGood444

CiniO wrote: »

I don't think 30 days to complete registration from the moment vehicle entered Ireland applies in OP's case.
He was UK resident, and came to Ireland with his car as so.
As UK resident he is entitled to keep his UK registered car in Ireland for up to 12 months.

Once he becomes resident in Ireland, indeed he needs to reregister it in Ireland within 30 days, but question is - when exactly does he become resident in Ireland.

I hardly can see how someone could prove he is resident in Ireland before he spends here more than 183 days.

Ye thats the impression i got as well. Did the VRT today all went smooth i explained i don't have the exemption yet and she said just wait for it and once arrives to pop in the office for the plates. Asked if there was a timeline and she said no.

Thanks again for the assistance this forum is a lot more informative than the revenue website!

gillen

you're a resident of Ireland if...

You spend 183 days or more in Ireland in that year from 1 January – 31 December or,
If you spend 280 days or more in Ireland over a period of two consecutive tax years, you will be regarded as resident for the second tax year. For example, if you spend 140 days here in Year 1 and 150 days here in Year 2, you will be resident in Ireland for Year 2.

source - http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/money_and_tax/tax/moving_country_and_taxation/tax_residence_and_domicile_in_ireland.html

TooGood444

Just to follow up on this got a letter saying my vrt exemption was successful will receive it in the post in a few days. My car hasn't got UK insurance now so will be getting a taxi to the NCT centre to give them this letter. Once i do that can i pick up the reg plates and fit them myself then can insure the car so can drive for the NCT test and finally tax it

Have i got all that in the right order what i need to do?

Many thanks again been very helpful.

mittimitti

you should be able to get temp insurance on the UK plates until you have the Irish plates
Insurance companies usually give 30 days

TooGood444

its declared sorn and the MOT has lapsed so defo cant drive it till i get the irish plates.

mittimitti

an mot isn't needed here

you can drive it to the nct centre for vrt without nct and again to the nct centre for its nct

bazz26

Most Irish insurance companies should temporarily cover you on the UK reg until you transfer it over to Irish number plates. This is how people buy used cars in the UK and drive them back across the Irish Sea.

737max

mail from DVLA regarding requirement for tax advising to set up a direct debit for motortax and then cancel it which seems almost unworkable to me:

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You are able to set up a Direct Debit online or at a Post Office® branch that deals with vehicle tax. If you are a new keeper of a vehicle that is registered to a Northern Ireland address, you will need to apply at the Post office®.



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