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Many unsuited to 3rd.Level.

  • 21-02-2016 10:15am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭


    There are far too many going to 3rd. Level to do Mickey Mouse courses.

    Alternatives !

    Get a job in, for example

    A builders providers.
    An electrical wholesalers
    A plumbing and heating wholesalers
    A motor parts specialist

    Outcomes can be as good as Dept. Manager or company rep with car supplied.

    If you like to work with your hands try and find an apprenticeship that suits you.

    In many cases I blame Mammy or Daddy for pushing you into 3rd. Level as a status symbol.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    3rd level thoughbot would be easier to get a job and move up the ladder I would be guessing??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    To put a positive outlook on this, I would say that anyone with a B grade in Pass Maths or English who commences their work life in a career that they are attracted to after the leaving certificate will have a better opportunity of establishing their own business if they wish to so.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Xenophile wrote: »
    There are far too many going to 3rd. Level to do Mickey Mouse courses.

    Alternatives!

    Get a job in, for example

    A builders providers.
    An electrical wholesalers
    A plumbing and heating wholesalers
    A motor parts specialist

    Outcomes can be as good as Dept. Manager or company rep with car supplied.

    If you like to work with your hands try and find an apprenticeship that suits you.

    In many cases I blame Mammy or Daddy for pushing you into 3rd. Level as a status symbol.
    What is a "Mickey Mouse" course?
    Yes if you like to work with your hands etc you can but how many jobs can you get into straight from school without going to 3rd level with much progression available?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    What is a "Mickey Mouse" course?
    Yes if you like to work with your hands etc you can but how many jobs can you get into straight from school without going to 3rd level with much progression available?

    Mickey Mouse degrees (or Mickey Mouse courses, known as bird courses in Canada[1]) is a term for university degree courses regarded as worthless or irrelevant. The term is a dysphemism, originating in the common usage of "Mickey Mouse" as a pejorative. It came to prominence in the UK after use by the country's national tabloids.

    The term was used by education minister Margaret Hodge, during a discussion on higher education expansion.[2] Hodge defined a Mickey Mouse course as "one where the content is perhaps not as rigorous as one would expect and where the degree itself may not have huge relevance in the labour market"; and that, furthermore, "simply stacking up numbers on Mickey Mouse courses is not acceptable". This opinion is often raised in the summer when exam results are released and new university courses revealed. The phrase took off in the late 1990s, as the Labour government created the target of having 50% of students in higher education by 2010.[3] By her observation that "the degree itself may not have huge relevance in the labour market", Hodge appeared to be reflecting particularly on those reading the Literae Humaniores otherwise known as "Greats" at Oxford University. She was far from the first do so, Samuel Butler making a similar criticism in his novel Erewhon, citing the Colleges of Unreason and the schools of Inconsistency and Evasion. Here the scholars are instructed principally in the science of hypothetics and hypothetical languages as the study of possibilities and remote contingencies is considered an infinitely better preparation for the business of life than that of actualities.

    A more critical interpretation of the epithet is that it stems from a general tabloid and folk conflation and reaction to several aspects of academic interest in the latter half of the twentieth century.[citation needed] Such examples include the publication of Ariel Dorfman and Armand Mattelart's political analysis of colonialism and cultural imperialism in How to Read Donald Duck and the endowing of the Disney Chair at Cambridge University with the creation of the Disney Professor of Archaeology in 1851 (John Disney in fact having no relation to Walt Disney).


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_degrees

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    how many jobs can you get into straight from school without going to 3rd level with much progression available?

    My sincere belief is, that the answer is plenty for those with an entrepreneurial spirit !

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