Planning for large porch/ reception room

enumbers

Hi
Currently live in a standard 30yo semi detached house problem is the front door opens directly into the hall which is a nightmare for heat loss and general water dirt etc getting blown into the house ( gets very strong winds ).

I would like to build an extension to the front covering the front door and the double doors of the sitting room to the right. Looking for some ideas about how to achieve this in a modern looking way losing as little light as possible out of the sitting room Has anyone any experience or examples of the above (planning issues, design ideas etc)

any comments or inspiration welcomed

Regards

John_Rambo

I'd get an architect. Even for a small job like this. A good creative one. They're brilliant at this type of thing, maximising light, using suitable materials, retaining heat etc... They're familiar with the planning laws and studied this sort of thing in college.

mickdw

enumbers wrote: »

Hi
Currently live in a standard 30yo semi detached house problem is the front door opens directly into the hall which is a nightmare for heat loss and general water dirt etc getting blown into the house ( gets very strong winds ).

I would like to build an extension to the front covering the front door and the double doors of the sitting room to the right. Looking for some ideas about how to achieve this in a modern looking way losing as little light as possible out of the sitting room Has anyone any experience or examples of the above (planning issues, design ideas etc)

any comments or inspiration welcomed

Regards

I don't get what you mean re covering double doors to sitting room.

enumbers

John_Rambo wrote: »

I'd get an architect. Even for a small job like this. A good creative one. They're brilliant at this type of thing, maximising light, using suitable materials, retaining heat etc... They're familiar with the planning laws and studied this sort of thing in college.

Will be more than likely hiring someone on the design side but would like to have a good starting point and some experiences before I approach anyone

enumbers

mickdw wrote: »

I don't get what you mean re covering double doors to sitting room.

Sorry I wasn't clear (easy to picture when your looking at it sorry ) standing facing the house you have the front door and to the right you have double doors opening onto the garden from the sitting room

John_Rambo

enumbers wrote: »

Will be more than likely hiring someone on the design side but would like to have a good starting point and some experiences before I approach anyone

Good call. I did the same. Unfortunately, my guy's in Japan now, so no point in PMing you his details. I'd be fussy though, get a properly trained architect, not an engineer or similar.

Best of luck.

enumbers

Have a very good civil engineer in the family with quite a bit of house design experience but its not a job for Him need a little more in terms of visual design rather than the structure or layout

John_Rambo

enumbers wrote: »

Have a very good civil engineer in the family with quite a bit of house design experience but its not a job for Him need a little more in terms of visual design rather than the structure or layout

oooh! Right! I was in the very same boat. Didn't go near him. The project was too personal and we have to live with it for a long time, we're probably in our "forever" house now after a few moves unless we win the lotto!

Now, if I was building a bridge....

Gumbo

It's hard to throw samples at you without knowing what the front elevation looks like.

enumbers

Something a little like this but garage has been converted with a tile roof also window to right of door is a double door now, sorry haven't got any pictures of my house on this pc

Call me Al

So am I right in thinking that, alongside your converted garage, you've two doors (front door and double doors) facing the road?

enumbers

Call me Al wrote: »

So am I right in thinking that, alongside your converted garage, you've two doors (front door and double doors) facing the road?

pretty much though the front door that enters the hallway is parallel to the road rather than facing the road, you would think this would help with the wind situation but seems to make it worse if that is possible

enumbers

house is a on a bit bigger scale than the one shown but pretty much the same style

enumbers

Anyone have any experience in this area in relation to either planning prospects due to extending to front or design input
Regards

Gumbo

enumbers wrote: »

Anyone have any experience in this area in relation to either planning prospects due to extending to front or design input
Regards

Depends on the building line of neighbouring properties. Generally LA's allow modern type structures to the front but again, it depends on locality.

Based on the image above, there's not enough info tbh, someone would need to see the lay of the land in person.

Have you invited an architect/technician/draughtsman to have a look yet?

BryanF

kceire wrote: »

Depends on the building line of neighbouring properties. Generally LA's allow modern type structures to the front but again, it depends on locality.

Based on the image above, there's not enough info tbh, someone would need to see the lay of the land in person.

Have you invited an architect/technician/draughtsman to have a look yet?

Ahem

enumbers wrote: »

Anyone have any experience in this area in relation to either planning prospects due to extending to front or design input
Regards

yes

Many archs/ arch tech here will have.

BUT every site is different.

Just look for precedence in your area - that always helps

enumbers

Would be a modern addition I would be hoping to add, No precedent in that no one else in the area has extended by more than the average box style porch. Only starting to embark on this project at the moment so have not enlisted any professional help yet.

There is currently a hedge separating the 2 semi detached houses and the road consists of 2 parallel rows of houses facing each other. House is on a larger than normal corner site.

Gumbo

enumbers wrote: »

Would be a modern addition I would be hoping to add, No precedent in that no one else in the area has extended by more than the average box style porch. Only starting to embark on this project at the moment so have not enlisted any professional help yet.

There is currently a hedge separating the 2 semi detached houses and the road consists of 2 parallel rows of houses facing each other. House is on a larger than normal corner site.

will have to either engage someone to look at your exact site or post a picture of your house elevation or a google streetview.

Otherwise people are guessing what will/could look well.

Nobody wants to post their address online, so that really leaves getting someone local to come out and have a look.

enumbers

wasnt looking for someone to post scale drawings of exactly what I should build, just interested to here views on plannings issues they have had or might come across, was also interested in any design Ideas anyone had or has seen. If Im not giving enough info let me know will try to build a better picture.

mickdw

I don't think extending out over the front porch and double doors is going to be a runner, certainly not any great depth of extention.

Gumbo

enumbers wrote: »

wasnt looking for someone to post scale drawings of exactly what I should build, just interested to here views on plannings issues they have had or might come across, was also interested in any design Ideas anyone had or has seen. If Im not giving enough info let me know will try to build a better picture.

A picture paints a thousand works.

enumbers

mickdw wrote: »

I don't think extending out over the front porch and double doors is going to be a runner, certainly not any great depth of extention.

Not looking to build anything to big just something a bit nicer than your average 2m box

enumbers

kceire wrote: »

A picture paints a thousand works.

Sorry pictures of house or the type of design Im hoping for

Gumbo

enumbers wrote: »

Sorry pictures of house or the type of design Im hoping for

Join Pinterest and search. Tons and tons of examples.

enumbers

Im looking for others peoples input on planning as well as design ideas, have seen some nice modern extensions on several sites already but none of them in Ireland so no point in worrying to much about the look if the idea is a non runner from a planning perspective.

Gumbo

enumbers wrote: »

Im looking for others peoples input on planning as well as design ideas, have seen some nice modern extensions on several sites already but none of them in Ireland so no point in worrying to much about the look if the idea is a non runner from a planning perspective.

That's fair enough but nobody can do that online ad it's all based on your locality. A porch extension that would get permission in crumlin may not get permission in Finglas due the the material characteristics of some terraces etc

All people would be doing is posting generic porches here too.

They both work with each other but the 2 have to meet at some stage, my advice would be to engage someone in real life and actually tell them where you live so they can visit the site and its surrounds.