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Pandering not opinion

  • 17-02-2016 1:10pm
    #1
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    Has anyone else noticed this, lot's of political comment in the print media in Ireland is pandering masquerading as comment, along with a very basic use of the English language describing various political grouping as a 'shower' or some other such colloquialism. There seems to be very little nuanced or sophisticated reporting or comment about politics in the print media of the type you get in the English papers?


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  • #2
    5rtytry56
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    Well, some pandering politicians will get elected in this country too, regardless: because they come from the new generation of the same dynasty. Certain regions constituents have an ingrained attitude more than others. :rolleyes:


  • #3
    ancapailldorcha
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    Ultimately, people want things to be as cheap as possible with free being the ideal. As a result, publications and websites need to find alternative sources of income which will often come from large companies and corporations through advertising revenue. Consequently, they'll have to bear this in mind when reporting and comment on certain events if they want to retain this source of revenue. I think the only way to access informed opinion and criticism is to look at higher publications such as the Financial Times, The Economist, etc...

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #4
    5rtytry56
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    Don't forget WHICH magazine. Once readily available in my local library, it had to be withdrawn for good because some of the less savory patrons would take it away for free. ( as well as being stingy)


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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Ultimately, people want things to be as cheap as possible with free being the ideal. As a result, publications and websites need to find alternative sources of income which will often come from large companies and corporations through advertising revenue. Consequently, they'll have to bear this in mind when reporting and comment on certain events if they want to retain this source of revenue. I think the only way to access informed opinion and criticism is to look at higher publications such as the Financial Times, The Economist, etc...

    I occasional buy the economist and it really is a shock and make you realise how the main stream media pander to the lowest common dominator and shapes what 'news' we hear.


  • #6
    ancapailldorcha
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    I occasional buy the economist and it really is a shock and make you realise how the main stream media pander to the lowest common dominator and shapes what 'news' we hear.

    Agreed completely. While it'd be absurd to suggest that it doesn't have any ideological leanings, it is completely open and frank about them; open borders, free or freer markets and small government. Tabloids in particular are bad at this though I note with a degree of regret that many broadsheets are heading in the same direction. Ad-derived revenue means that a publication is not responsible to the reader but to the advertiser. The reader is the product who must be enticed with catchy images and stand out headlines or clickbait.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #7
    OleRodrigo
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    Agreed. Tawdry headlines and click bait, often with the purpose of getting you through an article before you find out the headline had nothing to do with the story, or was overstating it - the reality is free media comes at a cost of quality. The comment section is a free for all in sarcasm and personal insult..at best. Running sentiment analysis tools on these sections yields topics that show the most ' engagement ' and are focused on again and again, whether there's a story there or not.

    That aside, I think there is increasingly a ' charade ' aspect to political discourse and presentation. I think all political parties are increasingly homogenised in the face of growing political and economic integration within Europe and can only affect minor operational changes despite what they may claim in election manifestos. This renders all of them much like each other, it doesn't make any difference who gets in - it's business as usual and major policy and decisions come from Europe, directly or otherwise. Which, btw, is a good thing, in principle at least.


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