Self build for 100k

businessdit

Wondering what your thoughts are on building a 3 bed bungalow house for 100k.

I own the land already and would be willing to do as much of the non technical physical labour myself.

I was thinking of using new building methods like using reinforced concrete panels instead of brickwork etc for efficiency.

Would appreciate any guidance

Regards
Alan

JimmyMW

businessdit wrote: »

Wondering what your thoughts are on building a 3 bed bungalow house for 100k.

I own the land already and would be willing to do as much of the non technical physical labour myself.

I was thinking of using new building methods like using reinforced concrete panels instead of brickwork etc for efficiency.

Would appreciate any guidance

Regards
Alan

You have no hope with that kinda budget, concrete panels etc will only save you time but would most likely cost you more. Budget €1500 per m2 and if the project is viable at that stage go and hire an architect.

Wegian

JimmyMW wrote: »

You have no hope with that kinda budget, concrete panels etc will only save you time but would most likely cost you more. Budget €1500 per m2 and if the project is viable at that stage go and hire an architect.

I agree with the first point, no hope!

I don't agree with 1500 per m2 based on costings by my QS, my Engineer and my own costings, more like EUR120 per sqft.

Also, if OP is on a budget then recommending an architect is only adding cost where, imo, it is not critical where a good Engineer is employed and one is prepared to research and design their own house layout / aspects.

sydthebeat

If you're willing to a lot of the manual work AND look at alternative building methods, it's possible. A decent 3 bed would be around 1200 sq ft.

Markcheese

sydthebeat wrote:

If you're willing to a lot of the manual work AND look at alternative building methods, it's possible. A decent 3 bed would be around 1200 sq ft.

Does the 100 grand include the engineer designing and signing off , any development levys, electricity connection, water, sewerage ect ?
Fair chunk there to start with ....

There are a couple of threads on here on alternative building methods ect..
Try googling barnhaus ... not sure of the basic size

JimmyMW

Wegian wrote: »

I agree with the first point, no hope!

I don't agree with 1500 per m2 based on costings by my QS, my Engineer and my own costings, more like EUR120 per sqft.

Also, if OP is on a budget then recommending an architect is only adding cost where, imo, it is not critical where a good Engineer is employed and one is prepared to research and design their own house layout / aspects.

What does your €120 per sqft include? Fees, architects, engineers, QS etc development contributions, ESB connection? €1500 per m2 is used as a guide for a domestic project at feasibility stage, I agree it is possibly a bit on the hight side, however considering we have absolutely no information about the project other than its 3 bedrooms, we don't know ground conditions, finishes, access etc, its better to estimate a bit on the high side.

With regards the employment of an architect, it has been well trashed out here on Boards before, generally the input of a good architect will more than cover his/hers fee.

Leave the engineers do the engineering and the architects do the designing, I cant understand why people constantly want to circumnavigate the architect, would you go to the doctor with a pain in your leg and ask him to pull a tooth while your there? No I am amusing.

Wegian

JimmyMW wrote: »

What does your €120 per sqft include? Fees, architects, engineers, QS etc development contributions, ESB connection? €1500 per m2 is used as a guide for a domestic project at feasibility stage, I agree it is possibly a bit on the hight side, however considering we have absolutely no information about the project other than its 3 bedrooms, we don't know ground conditions, finishes, access etc, its better to estimate a bit on the high side..

Yes includes Fees, is a self build rate and include A LOT of ringing around for prices. Its a bit of a how long is a piece of string anyway as you have alluded to with ground, finishes etc

JimmyMW wrote: »

With regards the employment of an architect, it has been well trashed out here on Boards before, generally the input of a good architect will more than cover his/hers fee.

Leave the engineers do the engineering and the architects do the designing, I cant understand why people constantly want to circumnavigate the architect, would you go to the doctor with a pain in your leg and ask him to pull a tooth while your there? No I am amusing.

I have never seen the number which have convinced me the benefit of the architect from a cost point of view and to help you understand, the reason a lot of people do it is cost.

Yes you are "amusing" with talk of doctors pulling teeth

Gumbo

Wegian wrote: »

Yes includes Fees, is a self build rate and include A LOT of ringing around for prices. Its a bit of a how long is a piece of string anyway as you have alluded to with ground, finishes etc

Your Financial Contribution could be 13k alone.
Drainage and water connection fees.
ESB / Gas connection fees.

Theres 25k gone already!
And that's before you comply with Part L.

Wegian

Indeed. My calculation has a contribution of much less than that but does include Part L

Markcheese

kceire wrote:

Your Financial Contribution could be 13k alone. Drainage and water connection fees. ESB / Gas connection fees.

Depending on the part of the country your in ,you'd be unlikely to get gas or drainage connections and even water could be a stretch... could up the costs a bit more

BryanF

Wegian wrote: »

Yes includes Fees, is a self build rate and include A LOT of ringing around for prices. Its a bit of a how long is a piece of string anyway as you have alluded to with ground, finishes etc



I have never seen the number which have convinced me the benefit of the architect from a cost point of view and to help you understand, the reason a lot of people do it is cost.

Yes you are "amusing" with talk of doctors pulling teeth

Why don't we compare some house plans?

Gumbo

Wegian wrote: »

Indeed. My calculation has a contribution of much less than that but does include Part L

What's your plans for Part L compliance?
Slab insulation
Wall insulation
Roof insulation
Renewable
Heat recovery
Pump etc?

It sounds like a tough ask for 100k but if you have thought it out properly then fair due to you. I would love to see your break down.

Wegian

Read my post I said there isn't a hope of doing it for 100k!

Markcheese

kceire wrote:

What's your plans for Part L compliance? Slab insulation Wall insulation Roof insulation Renewable Heat recovery Pump etc?

kceire wrote:

It sounds like a tough ask for 100k but if you have thought it out properly then fair due to you. I would love to see your break down.

Dont know how it'd fit in with part l but
1 design I saw used straw bale as wall insulation ( bear in mind though they are 2 foot wide) , same place had just 1 wood burning stove as heating, floor insulation would be easy enough to do yourself ... not sure about rest

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Markcheese wrote: »

not sure about rest

That's when the budget suddenly doubles :D:D:D:D

duckcfc

businessdit wrote: »

Wondering what your thoughts are on building a 3 bed bungalow house for 100k.

I own the land already and would be willing to do as much of the non technical physical labour myself.

I was thinking of using new building methods like using reinforced concrete panels instead of brickwork etc for efficiency.

Would appreciate any guidance

Regards
Alan

Put your mind to it and it'll happen! Anything is possible