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Window Boards - Plaster instead?

  • 15-02-2016 11:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭


    Anyone dismissed (or considered dismissing) the normal convention of installing window boards internally, and instead plastered their reveals head and cills ?

    I'm looking for clean lines as much as possible internally, and was considering this approach. My windows open in so I won't have anything perched on the internal sill.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭ht9zni1gs28crp


    Yes. Done it. Heads, jambs and cills...

    Much cleaner lines as per the design and saved a fortune on timber and labour. Only advise is though to paint the cills that are within reach with washable paint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    miller_63 wrote: »
    Yes. Done it. Heads, jambs and cills...

    Much cleaner lines as per the design and saved a fortune on timber and labour.

    Any pics to hand?

    To be fair, it wouldn't take that much imagination to perceive what it would look like but when you are trying to convince someone else that 'it would look good, honest', then a picture is a must.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭ht9zni1gs28crp


    Picture below will give you some idea.

    edit now uploaded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    I like it.
    Might not be to everyone's taste but the lobbying has begun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    It must be an absolute nightmare stopping people leaving things on them?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭ht9zni1gs28crp


    It must be an absolute nightmare stopping people leaving things on them?

    As our windows are inward opening there cant be much left on them anyways regardless of windowboards or not. Less clutter is better.

    Do people in your house not obey house rules?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    miller_63 wrote: »
    Picture below will give you some idea.

    edit now uploaded
    miller_63 wrote: »
    As our windows are inward opening there cant be much left on them anyways regardless of windowboards or not. Less clutter is better.

    Do people in your house not obey house rules?

    Looks stunning, although I'm sure it's not the people that have to obey the rules in that house!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭JimmyMW


    miller_63 wrote: »
    Picture below will give you some idea.

    edit now uploaded

    How did you close the cill? With plywood, expanding metal and plaster perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    That does look great, but I wouldn't do it with kids around. Your heart would be broken with scratches, indents and hand/footprints everywhere.

    I wonder could you achieve the same effect with a board cut flush and finely sanded and painted. A little more hard wearing but with the same effect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭ht9zni1gs28crp


    JimmyMW wrote: »
    How did you close the cill? With plywood, expanding metal and plaster perhaps?

    Insulated Plaster Board, over a marine grade ply closer.


    seamus wrote: »
    That does look great, but I wouldn't do it with kids around. Your heart would be broken with scratches, indents and hand/footprints everywhere.

    I wonder could you achieve the same effect with a board cut flush and finely sanded and painted. A little more hard wearing but with the same effect.

    That could work, or alternatively you could tell your kids not to be climbing on the cills!

    Washable paint works a treat for other marks.

    We also have a full height corner window, which the cills are the same to match, these are painted and are standing up ok, far better than you could imagine with one child, one dog and two cats.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    miller_63 wrote: »
    Do people in your house not obey house rules?

    The bold corner would be worn out! ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    It it comes to it, and hand prints on the sill were a constant bother, an idea might be to have some glass cut to place over the sill...almost like coasters.
    Probably be overkill and a lot of expense but there are options at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    It it comes to it, and hand prints on the sill were a constant bother, an idea might be to have some glass cut to place over the sill...almost like coasters.
    Probably be overkill and a lot of expense but there are options at least.

    I don't know about that one. I think it might look the exact opposite of the minimalist look you are after. Also if your problem is kid's hand prints the same kids would be only delighted to test out what happens your coasters when they fall from a height!

    I'd leave that one out of your lobbying speech! ;-)

    P.S. I've just realised - I've seen this done for high level windows in double height areas and it's perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    I don't know about that one. I think it might look the exact opposite of the minimalist look you are after. Also if your problem is kid's hand prints the same kids would be only delighted to test out what happens your coasters when they fall from a height!

    I'd leave that one out of your lobbying speech! ;-)

    P.S. I've just realised - I've seen this done for high level windows in double height areas and it's perfect.

    No question that the glass wouldn't look as good as the bare finish, but as I said, if hand prints were a constant bother it would look fine (in my head anyway). I'm sure they could be temporarily fixed in place..bit of imagination is needed.

    No need for any more lobbying either...I've won this battle. Might push my luck now and see if I can do a land grab on some more of the walk in wardrobe ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Done it on a house recently don't have pics to hand but the kids hand prints were at the forefront of discussions even when someone's looking out the window they tend to lean on the ledge
    So the compromise was to put a timber window board on but it was square with a 2mm round on top and flush with the wall with a 4mm shadow gap where it meets the wall and painted with a satin wood washable paint
    Looked well in the end and easy cleaned too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭stickybookmark


    Done it on a house recently don't have pics to hand but the kids hand prints were at the forefront of discussions even when someone's looking out the window they tend to lean on the ledge
    So the compromise was to put a timber window board on but it was square with a 2mm round on top and flush with the wall with a 4mm shadow gap where it meets the wall and painted with a satin wood washable paint
    Looked well in the end and easy cleaned too

    what type of timber red deal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭SC024


    what type of timber red deal?

    MDF would do the same thing primed & painted. Red deal would probably leave grain marks unless you flush fill it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    what type of timber red deal?

    It was done in popular it's a nice timber for painting
    And 36 mm thick so with the shadow gap it still looked meaty but flush with the walls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭john_eire


    Hi all,
    has anybody gone with no skirting boards, tile/flooring finished right to the wall

    Only a few pictures around the net and thought the clean lines look nice,
    but is it hard to get a nice finish where tiles meet walls,

    If anybody got any pictures of how they done it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    john_eire wrote: »
    Hi all,
    has anybody gone with no skirting boards, tile/flooring finished right to the wall

    Only a few pictures around the net and thought the clean lines look nice,
    but is it hard to get a nice finish where tiles meet walls,

    If anybody got any pictures of how they done it?


    If you have your plastering done already then you might struggle to finish tiles (or other flooring) neatly at the floor/wall junction. Skirting hides a lot, and is used to hide the cut edge of floor tiles for one thing. Lots of tiles will chip when cut, leaving a poor finish that you don't want shown.
    If you have the time and patience, you could rebate the bottom of your wall to do something like I did as per the RecessedFlooring attachment.

    I was able to rebate into the wall fairly easily because I did not use sand/cement for plastering but another product.
    On my walls, the rebate is deep enough to allow expansion of timber flooring. Some patching is required to straighten up the cut but it works better than skirting IMO. If planned better I'd have put metal plastering bead at the bottom of the wall, maybe 20 mm above the floor, and plastered down to it leaving a nice uniform line.

    RecessedFlooring.PNG



    If I was building again I'd be aiming for this sort of non skirting board finish.
    There is no skirting used, but the plasterer needs to leave the small pencil line recess along the bottom. Very neat job IMO but too contemporary for some houses.

    Non-skirting.PNG


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