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Motor Insurance consultant jailed for staging accidents

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    He wasn't a broker, he was an independent claims assessor at some point before 2000, got into the building trade then lost his shirt on that.

    While its good to see jail time for a fraudster, one has to ask what censure are the people that actually made the claims facing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    Another victory against fraud, but we need dozens more to start seeing an impact on our premiums. As Business Cat says, what will happen to the others involved? Gardai have their names and addresses from the claims they submitted

    Key phrase here in the report

    “However the key to reducing this type of fraud is to eliminate the financial incentive; this can be achieved by replacing monetary compensation with medical care for whiplash type injuries."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey



    Key phrase here in the report

    “However the key to reducing this type of fraud is to eliminate the financial incentive; this can be achieved by replacing monetary compensation with medical care for whiplash type injuries."
    I've been talking about this but it seems people are reluctant to have this possible goldmine taken away from them, even if it costs them a huge amount in the long run in increased insurance premiums.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    I've been talking about this but it seems people are reluctant to have this possible goldmine taken away from them, even if it costs them a huge amount in the long run in increased insurance premiums.

    Dude, if they can square it with my boss 100% and put me up somewhere nice for the full duration of the treatment, until all symptoms are gone - cool. Even they can arrange it for my house.

    I suspect what they want is to not pay anything for time off work. Or travel. Or missing out on the things you could have been doing otherwise. So, as compensation for somebody else's stupidity, you will take time from your own schedule after work to travel to a designated approved centre where they will do the barest possible minimum for you. (Remember... as they are always keen to point out... their obligation is to their bottom line and their shareholders first and foremost). When you have finished the barest statistically acceptable treatment schedule you will be told "you're cured or you're milking it, either way get the f*ck out you're increasing our air con bill by being here a second longer than we want you here"

    Also... if you think all or most of the savings will be fed back to the customers rather than perks and mercs.... come on, it's a legally required consumer product - people have to buy it!
    burns-smithers-money-fight-o.gif GIFSoup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Aongus Von Heisenberg


    Two years custodial seems fairly light for being the organiser at the heart of a large fraud ring (50 arrests were made).

    I found the judge's following comment odd :

    “It is not as if insurance companies want an invitation to attack the innocent. They are well able to use crimes like this to protect themselves and play on the public."

    Does it suggest a predisposed bias against the primary victims of the fraud?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    Dude, if they can square it with my boss 100% and put me up somewhere nice for the full duration of the treatment, until all symptoms are gone - cool. Even they can arrange it for my house.

    The current situation allows you to claim for treatment for your injuries. If you are not injured and it is a fraudulent claim, there is no follow up as whether you bothered going to get treatment or not. By compensating you for your lost work, additional expenses etc, they are seeking to pay the additional medical bills directly for the treatment that is actually done.


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