CYCLE4CF - Waterford April 3rd

greenspurs

Hi all...
Im organising a charity cycle, and wanted to know what are the benefits (if any) of running it through/in conjunction with a CI registered club ?

Captain Havoc

greenspurs wrote: »

Hi all...
Im organising a charity cycle, and wanted to know what are the benefits (if any) of running it through/in conjunction with a CI registered club ?

I think insurance is an obvious one. Clubs have a wealth of experience in organising events and would probably think of things you wouldn't. Clubs have loads of contacts and a lot would have built up good will over the years.

CramCycle

You would also get an indication from CI of the requirements that your local Gardai and authorities would need.

You can borrow the safety car, you can hire radios, wealth of contacts as Captain said who would know the requirements, offer assistance, have experience with such rides as well as have routes that may have already been well checked safety wise.

greenspurs

re. Insurance, yeh thats the tricky one.....
If you do it through a CI registered club, and the insurance is through CI, dont all cyclists have to be ci members ?

CramCycle

greenspurs wrote: »

re. Insurance, yeh thats the tricky one.....
If you do it through a CI registered club, and the insurance is through CI, dont all cyclists have to be ci members ?

You can get a one day license for non members as far as I know.

Beasty

There is quite a process to go through - see here for more info

Once you have submitted management plan/risk assessment CI should hopefully approve the event - that will allow you (as organisers) as well as participants (using the 1 day licences as mentioned by Cram, to the extent required) to benefit from CI insurance.

CramCycle

Beasty wrote: »

There is quite a process to go through - see here for more info

Once you have submitted management plan/risk assessment CI should hopefully approve the event - that will allow you (as organisers) as well as participants (using the 1 day licences as mentioned by Cram, to the extent required) to benefit from CI insurance.

Quite a process and in my opinion a good one as these are things that an organiser should be doing anyway, although there are some down the country that just go ahead and do it, and have a policy of see no evil, hear no evil.

Beasty

CramCycle wrote: »

although there are some down the country that just go ahead and do it, and have a policy of see no evil, hear no evil.

Would not want to be in a position of authority (committee member or event organiser) of any club that does not follow CI procedures. That could leave them personally liable if anything does go wrong.

CramCycle

Beasty wrote: »

Would not want to be in a position of authority (committee member or event organiser) of any club that does not follow CI procedures. That could leave them personally liable if anything does go wrong.

I am not talking about CI clubs, more the likes of a GAA club, someone comes up with an idea of running it as a fundraiser and just picks a date, has a few marshalls and goes for it, not an ambulance in sight.

Its rare enough (I hope) but it does happen, my old GAA club done it last year, short enough spin but they had a large crowd from what my mother tells me and I was talking to one of the organisers when I bumped into him awhile later, who looked at me as if I had two heads when I mentioned my limited knowledge of such things, he laughed and thought me foolish when I mentioned insurance, shure people ride on their bikes ion the road anyway, what the difference?

greenspurs

Beasty wrote: »

Would not want to be in a position of authority (committee member or event organiser) of any club that does not follow CI procedures. That could leave them personally liable if anything does go wrong.

No way would i run a cycle without insurance.
I hope my club agree to 'run/support' the cycle...

greenspurs

http://https://www.iregister.ie/v2/events/cycle4cf/

greenspurs

80km charity cycle in aid of Cystic Fibrosis Ireland.
Starting in Waterford at 10am on Sunday 3rd April. Travelling to Carrick and up the legendary Seskin Hill.
C.I members €15 , non members €17.

greenspurs

Hi all...
UPDATE -
Cycle is insured through C.I, via my club.
CYCLE4CF on in Waterford on Sunday 3rd April, 80km spin.

jamesd

greenspurs wrote: »

Hi all...
UPDATE -
Cycle is insured through C.I, via my club.
CYCLE4CF on in Waterford on Sunday 3rd April, 80km spin.

You should also think about running a 10km cycle too for families, that is a good one as draws family out and makes more money for the cause.

dastardly00

greenspurs wrote: »

http://https://www.iregister.ie/v2/events/cycle4cf/

This link isn't working for me.

Fuzzy Logic

dastardly00 wrote: »

This link isn't working for me.

https://www.iregister.ie/v2/events/cycle4cf/

greenspurs

https://www.facebook.com/Cycle4cf-1101002833265420/

I hope this one works ?!

greenspurs

jamesd wrote: »

You should also think about running a 10km cycle too for families, that is a good one as draws family out and makes more money for the cause.

That is true, but trying to get marshalls for an 80km loop is tough enough, without the hassle (and extra insurance cost) of the getting more for a family spin ....
Maybe 'next time' !

Beasty

Threads merged

greenspurs

dastardly00 wrote: »

This link isn't working for me.

Yeh, i dont know why its not, i tried it myself and its not working.
I have a link to the f'book page on there now, with all details on it, (it seems to be working)

Fuzzy Logic

greenspurs wrote: »

Yeh, i dont know why its not, i tried it myself and its not working.
I have a link to the f'book page on there now, with all details on it, (it seems to be working)

Jay you have http://https:// in the link so it's not working properly that way. I edited it to make it work

jamesd

greenspurs wrote: »

That is true, but trying to get marshalls for an 80km loop is tough enough, without the hassle (and extra insurance cost) of the getting more for a family spin ....
Maybe 'next time' !

Our club ran a charity cycle last year for a local cause, we had a 100km, 50km and a 15km and raised €33K from it. A lot of work but worth it.

greenspurs

But when i say 'club' , i mean just me ! We have just over 100members, and id prefer to see them on their bikes on the day unless i get really stretched !
Well done ! savage amount to raise !!

greenspurs

But when i say 'club' , i mean just me ! We have just over 100members, and id prefer to see them on their bikes on the day unless i get really stretched !
Well done ! savage amount to raise !!

jamesd

greenspurs wrote: »

But when i say 'club' , i mean just me ! We have just over 100members, and id prefer to see them on their bikes on the day unless i get really stretched !
Well done ! savage amount to raise !!

Oh that's different, our club has 45 members but we made a committee with 8 of us and there was 8 of us doing all the work and there was so much work.

longshanks

Ah Seskin, you bastard of a hill.

greenspurs

longshanks wrote: »

Ah Seskin, you bastard of a hill.

Absolute .....:D
:eek:

greenspurs

Waterford city council want to be indemnified on the insurance policy...
Over to you Cycling Ireland....
Oh that will be €60 please !!!!

"for the good of cycling...."

jamesd

greenspurs wrote: »

Waterford city council want to be indemnified on the insurance policy...
Over to you Cycling Ireland....
Oh that will be €60 please !!!!

"for the good of cycling...."

What do they want to be indemnified for?

greenspurs

jamesd wrote: »

What do they want to be indemnified for?

I dont know ! They just requested that Waterford city and council are indemnified from the event, and they want to see the policy !!

Is this common practice??

Beasty

greenspurs wrote: »

I dont know ! They just requested that Waterford city and council are indemnified from the event, and they want to see the policy !!

Is this common practice??

Yes - we have to get this whenever we put on an event or indeed if we want to hire council property for a committee meeting (although one letter will cover us for a series of meetings throughout the year)

greenspurs

is it a flat rate of €60 ? I mean , can you add in more than place ? ie. the gaa club that 'might' be our start/finish might have to indemnified also? Or would their own insurance cover that ??
(sorry about the stupid questions, havent had to deal with insurance/red tape , or C.I , before!)

Beasty

Every time you need to get a letter from CI confirming a specific counterparty is indemnified there is a standard fee of €60 for each counterparty indemnified.

Local authorities now seem to ask for this as a matter of course.

The GAA club could ask for it - their own insurance may only cover for GAA related activities for example. Equally they may never have even thought of asking .... Ultimately CI does provide adequate Public Liability cover, so there is no need to "volunteer" these letters if they are not requested.

greenspurs

Head is wrecked ....

Gaa club came good - Start/Finish sorted !

greenspurs

UPDATE -

CYCLE4Cf is on Sunday 3rd April, Starting at 10am from Butlerstown GAA Club on the 'old' road to Kilmeaden (behind The Holy Cross pub)
Register online , or on the day from 9am. €15 for c.i members , and €17 for non members.
80km route, taking in the 5km climb of the Scrouty , and the 1km climb of Seskin Hill (this climb is optional)
Great scenery as you pass by the Comeraghs , and pass the birthplace of King Kelly ....
All details, and route maps/strava on our Facebook page.