joint ill

Dickie10

i have a lamb with what looks like the early stages of joint ill , hes sitting down a lot but is drinking and warm i see him going aboiut on his knees this morning hes a big lamb 8 days old perfect in every other way. dont think he got the navel disenfected as my father seen the ewe had lamed and just put her in a pen although pen was cleaned out and fresh beded, he couldnt find the iodine at the time. any one know any ggod treatment for this? its early stages as last night he was flying about. hes not bound up either hes excreting away

Arrow in the Knee

Noroclav for 5 days

solerina

We use Synulox, you get it from the vet, works very well but you must give it twice a day for over a week.

razor8

Another vote for noroclav, success is usually based on how quick you treat IMO

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

Another vote for noroclav, success is usually based on how quick you treat IMO

Yea, and it takes a long time for enough antibiotic to get into the joints, so better to err on too long a treatment rather than too short.....very hard to cure a relapse

greysides

I see a lot of joint ill in an abattoir. Often it results in a partial condemnation. Usually it's a backleg, most commonly the stifle joint (so the whole leg is taken off); less commonly the hock joint (so the top part of the leg is removed). Occasionally it's the front leg with the elbow the most frequent but also the carpus and rarely the shoulder.

Three or more joints swollen is a full carcase condemnation. These lambs fall into two categories (roughly). There's the screws which are badly affected even still and are poorly fleshed and the well fleshed ones which I hate condemning as I know someone but time/effort and some money into treating all to no avail.

You can tell some of the ones that were well-treated/lucky also. You can see the joints still a little enlarged and with extra scar tissue around the joint but no excess fluid/pus in the joint any longer. These are the ones that got a long course of antibiotics, started early enough.

Dickie10

the case i thought of as joint ill turned out to be a hurt the lamb got a puck when he was placed with a coupe ofother ewes and lambs before turnout, a half ml of pen strep for 3 days sorted him out, hes after getting huge in last few days, two weeks old tommorrow, the HDs really do grow quick, all good anyway now, thanks for the advice on possible joint ill, thank god dont have any of it yet

Sami23

We had a single lamb born last Thursday that was perfect. Born outside and sucked straight away. He was put into a pen that evening and was treated with iodine on the way in.
Let him out on Saturday morning and again was perfect but when he was coming in on Saturday evening he was very stiff on one of his front legs at the knee joint and bent over a bit so I presume this is joint ill ???

I see above Noroclav is being recommended, is it only from Vets this can be got and how is it administrated as in to muscle or knee directly ?

Any help would be great as he is a fine lamb

orm0nd

Sami23 wrote: »

We had a single lamb born last Thursday that was perfect. Born outside and sucked straight away. He was put into a pen that evening and was treated with iodine on the way in.
Let him out on Saturday morning and again was perfect but when he was coming in on Saturday evening he was very stiff on one of his front legs at the knee joint and bent over a bit so I presume this is joint ill ???

I see above Noroclav is being recommended, is it only from Vets this can be got and how is it administrated as in to muscle or knee directly ?

Any help would be great as he is a fine lamb

POM so vets only, into muscle and give for 7 days,

important to give long term eventhough lamb may appear better in day or 2



if he gets a relapse it's almost impossible to cure

iodine asap after birth & dip rather than spray, also ensure that the ewe;s teat are clean, via mouth is another infection source,

plenty of dry straw for bedding

ganmo

You'll need a prescription to get it.
Into the muscle

Sami23

This is the lamb. His left front knee is the worst but right knee affected too.
Is this definately joint ill ?

rangler1

Sami23 wrote: »

This is the lamb. His left front knee is the worst but right knee affected too.
Is this definately joint ill ?

iodine is supposed to used as soon as they're born, not really effective affter that.
Likewise with joint ill , it has to be treated as soon as the symptoms show....very hard cured if neglected, we'd always treat immediately as all the joints can get infected if not treated.

orm0nd

rangler1 wrote: »

iodine is supposed to used as soon as they're born, not really effective affter that.
Likewise with joint ill , it has to be treated as soon as the symptoms show....very hard cured if neglected, we'd always treat immediately as all the joints can get infected if not treated.

rangler, i think you mentoned you use something other substance (for want of a better description) for navels?

Also you mentioned a rat bait some time ago, (got a few unwelcome guests)

rangler1

orm0nd wrote: »

rangler, i think you mentoned you use something other substance (for want of a better description) for navels?

Also you mentioned a rat bait some time ago, (got a few unwelcome guests)

Yes,when iodine didn't seem to be doing the job a few years back our vet recommended changing to ''Hibitane plus''.
It's fairly expensive, but we mix it at 10 parts water to 1 part hibitane plus and it improved the problem.

This is where we buy rat poison.....like the iodine , rat poison starts to lose it'effect after a while so this is what we're using at the moment, we live near them so it's convenient and it works at the moment

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