Certs - Explain like I'm five years old

OU812

OK, not that I've had a fire lit under me again, I want to get some certs to verify some details. I believe these cost about €4 each.

So explain to me like I'm five:

(1) What do I need?
(2) Where do I get it?
(3) Where do I go to get the certs (I live in Dublin)?
(4) Can I get Birth Marriage & Death certs?
(5) Can I find out where they're buried?
(6) What information is on the certs (their name, their DOB/DOD/Marriage, Place of, Parents names, etc)?
(7) How many certs can I get in one go?
(8) How accurate are they likely to be?




For instance, this is the marriage record for my Great Grandparents:

Party 1 Name FRANCIS LARKIN
Party 2 Name ANNE OAKES
Date of Event 28 June 1909
Group Registration ID 1939169
SR District/Reg Area Dublin North

I'm assuming go need their names, the ID number & the date ?


Now, I was under the impression that Anne was born in Co. Louth & the only one I can find in the same timeframe is:

Name ANNE OAKS
Date of Birth 1872
Group Registration ID 10097886
SR District/Reg Area Dundalk
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R

But that's 5 years before the birth year I have for her (source is family word of mouth), & it's also missing the E out of her surname. That entry also doesn't appear to have her mother's name which means it's basically useless, right ?

Hermy

If you haven't read it before Claire Santry's Genealogy Toolkit might be worth a look. There's a section on civil registrations.

tabbey

Oaks / Oakes - no real difference, an uncommon name, spelling depends on who writes the entry, and how it is transcribed. These were written by humans, not robots, so are prone to bad writing and error.

Family word of mouth, over several generations are very unreliable.

I don't see an Anne Oaks / Oakes of the right age group in the 1901 census, did she emigrate?

Get the certs in the General Register Office, Werburgh Street, Dublin 8,(near Burdocks chips) , you have the reference number to fill in the form.
Bring your four euro per cert, and your good self of course.

pinkypinky

OU812

You can read our sticky to get answers to most of your questions.

Throw away your thoughts of a 5 year age difference and a spelling difference. These mean nothing in the 19th century.

Finding out where they're buried will be the hardest thing, most likely, because if they're ordinary people with modest income, they may not have put up a headstone. If you find out when they died, check all the graveyards in the locality to see if there are burial records.

L1011

When a great great grandmummy and a great great granddaddy love each other very very much, they might have a little great grandparent....


You did ask for a 5 year old level!

shanew

OU812 wrote: »

........impression that Anne was born in Co. Louth & the only one I can find in the same timeframe is:
Name ANNE OAKS Date of Birth 1872
Group Registration ID 10097886
SR District/Reg Area Dundalk
..
Mother's Birth Surname N/R

...also doesn't appear to have her mother's name which means it's basically useless, right ?

Neither the GRO or FamilySearch Index Include mother's maiden name this far back - but there are some extracted births for this timeframe on FamilySearch, which include some of the registration details for this birth (name, area & page ref. matches).

Name: Anne Oaks
Registration Sub-District * : Carlingford, Louth
Birth Date 06 Sep 1872
Parents : James Oaks & Ellen Murphy

(*incorrectly labelled as Christening Place in this collection)

see: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBN-1ZZ

OU812

pinkypinky wrote: »

OU812

You can read our sticky to get answers to most of your questions.

Throw away your thoughts of a 5 year age difference and a spelling difference. These mean nothing in the 19th century.

Finding out where they're buried will be the hardest thing, most likely, because if they're ordinary people with modest income, they may not have put up a headstone. If you find out when they died, check all the graveyards in the locality to see if there are burial records.

Thanks.

I've found the Great Grandfather's grave - He's in the same plot as his brother who died five years later & my grandmother who died ten years ago. Can't find beyond that (not quite sure why I feel the "need to" also). Glasnevin is the historic "family burial ground". But I can't find them when searching there.

Nor can I find the great grandmother's grave - there was a child who died age 10 in 1931 * I suspect they might be in the same plot as the G Grandmother died in 1925, but I can'd fine her either.

Is it worth going to Glasnevin & asking in there?

Hermy

Is this your Anne Oakes in 1901 Census?

pinkypinky

If you've searched Glasnevin's website and got the full details of the grave where each family member is located, then there's no point in actually going there. They don't have any extra information on site that isn't on their database.

OU812

Hermy wrote: »

Is this your Anne Oakes in 1901 Census?

I suspect that's her, through family, I've been told her father's name was James & she was from Louth. However in the 1911, there's no sign of them.


There is a Thomas O Akes (age 14) listed in /Louth/Rathcor/Ballynamaghery, but it appears to be an entirely different family (although Rose is a family name so the likely hood of them being some sort of relation is high):

O akes Rose 54
O akes Patrick 27
O akes Peter 21
O akes Thomas 14
Mc Avoy Rose 7