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Daallo Airlines Inflight Event

  • 02-02-2016 5:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭


    Daallo-airlines_mogadishu-2.jpg

    A Daallo Airline Airbus A321 flight D3159 made an emergency landing at Mogadishu today after an explosion soon after takeoff from Mogadishu, Somalia.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    That looks like a pretty major decompressive explosion there. Looks from the photo that it happened at about passenger level in the main cabin.

    Wonder what altitude it happened at? If it were near top of climb, I'd imagine anyone sitting near the blast would have been sucked through that gaping hole, but would probably they'd be dead or unconscious beforehand anyway. Scary-looking event. They were lucky to get on the ground more or less intact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭Dogwatch


    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,280 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=1


    Passengers report at least one person was blown out of the aircraft.

    I'd beg to differ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Originally Posted by Dogwatch View Post
    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect


    "Passengers report at least one person was blown out of the aircraft.

    One passenger reported he saw the explosion occur inside the aircraft a couple of seat rows ahead of him followed by an air rush and sudden drop of cabin pressure, the seat belt held him in his seat. He saw two injured people around him, one an elderly man from Finland and another one being a young Italian. The elderly man was severly burned.

    Local residents at Balad (Somalia), located about 21nm northnortheast of Mogadishu Airport, reported they saw a severly burnt body fall off an unidentified aircraft."



    I know we all have different impressions of what's dramatic, but if I were on that Airbus, it would have been plenty dramatic for me at any rate. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=1

    Sorry but I'll have to disagree with you there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect
    does the A321 have a passenger oxygen system that uses bottles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭MoyVilla9


    Seems to me that (with the unfortunate exception of one passenger) that the people abroad this flight were extremely lucky. Had the aircraft been at a higher altitude perhaps the outcome would not have been so good. It does look like an attack gone wrong to me, but lets see what they find out.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    smurfjed wrote: »
    does the A321 have a passenger oxygen system that uses bottles?
    A320 family use chemically generated oxygen in the pax drop down system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=1

    First Prize, for the most ridiculous comment of 2016!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=1

    How about no.
    On Feb 3rd 2016 Somalia's Air Accident Investigation Authority (SAAIA) told The Aviation Herald, that one person was unaccounted for and missing after the aircraft landed. The body of the missing person was subsequently found near Balad Town, about 30km north of Mogadishu. The body was taken to Mogadishu in the night of Feb 2nd/3rd.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭weisses


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=1

    Depends on where you were seated i guess (longer video)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    From AV Herald :
    Accident: Daallo A321 near Mogadishu on Feb 2nd 2016, explosion rips fuselage open
    By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Feb 2nd 2016 15:27Z, last updated Wednesday, Feb 3rd 2016 15:07Z
    A Daallo Airlines Airbus A321-100, registration SX-BHS performing flight D3-159 from Mogadishu (Somalia) to Djibouti (Djibouti) with 74 passengers and 7 crew, was climbing out of Mogadishu about 5 minutes into the flight when an explosion was heard. The crew stopped the climb and returned the aircraft to Mogadishu for a safe landing about 20 minutes after departure. A large hole was seen at the right hand side of the fuselage above the wing. Three occupants were taken to hospitals with injuries. One passenger was missing after landing, the body was recovered near Balad about 21nm northnortheast of Mogadishu.

    The airline confirmed an explosion on board, the cause is under investigation, an oxygen bottle is being suspected. There were two injuries, one of them serious.

    Somalia's Ministry of Transport reported a fire on board of the aircraft, the fire was put out. The damage to the aircraft is being assessed.

    Somalia's Civil Aviation and Meteorology Authority (SCAMA) reported in the evening, that the aircraft with 81 people on board was climbing through FL100 out of Mogadishu when the crew reported a sudden fault requiring an immediate return to Mogadishu. There were three injuries on board of the aircraft. SCAMA also stated (translated with the help of a Somali reader), that after landing on board of the aircraft all people were alive, following a formal review of the passenger manifest by the airline it was discovered however that one person was missing.

    Passengers report at least one person was blown out of the aircraft.

    One passenger reported he saw the explosion occur inside the aircraft a couple of seat rows ahead of him followed by an air rush and sudden drop of cabin pressure, the seat belt held him in his seat. He saw two injured people around him, one an elderly man from Finland and another one being a young Italian. The elderly man was severly burned.

    Local residents at Balad (Somalia), located about 21nm northnortheast of Mogadishu Airport, reported they saw a severly burnt body fall off an unidentified aircraft.

    On Feb 3rd 2016 Somalia's Air Accident Investigation Authority (SAAIA) told The Aviation Herald, that one passenger was unaccounted for and missing after the aircraft landed. The body of the missing person was subsequently found near Balad Town, about 30km north of Mogadishu. The body was taken to Mogadishu in the night of Feb 2nd/3rd.

    Scenes on board after explosion while returning to Mogadishu






    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭Dogwatch


    Unfortunate accident but not dramatic. One unfortunate person died but everyone else
    survived and the aircraft landed safely......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Unfortunate accident but not dramatic. One unfortunate person died but everyone else
    survived and the aircraft landed safely......

    If that happened my aircraft, bomb on board, or structural failure leading to a decompression (quite unlikely given the low altitude and thus low differential pressure), I'd consider it dramatic!
    These passengers and crew are extremely lucky to be alive, and this aircraft is going to be a treasure trove of information to accident investigators and airframe designers. If it is indeed proven to be caused by an explosive device then this will give invaluable data to engineers about how the explosion affected the airframe and could influence future designs, and/or procedures (eg related to the least risk bomb location).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    If this was a European airline ye'd all be screaming blue bloody murder... Not dramatic my arse. Catch yourselves on. By accident or design a person is dead what more do you ghouls want?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    I can't believe these people who take out their phones to record this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 bernsy


    Treadhead wrote: »
    If this was a European airline ye'd all be screaming blue bloody murder... Not dramatic my arse. Catch yourselves on. By accident or design a person is dead what more do you ghouls want?


    This is a European airline , the plane is owned and operated by Hermes Airlines from Greece on wet lease to Dallo


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I wonder is this repairable or a write-off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Not sure what's worse the fact that someone appears to have got a bomb on the plane or the fact that they don't actually know if anyone is missing or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    I can't believe these people who take out their phones to record this.

    I personally would.

    Sitting in your seat screaming won't achieve anything. Taking a video offers possibly vital evidence that investigators could use (should the investigation be taken seriously) to help find the cause of then incident.

    Of course posting the fecking thing online is a different story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Stinicker wrote: »
    I wonder is this repairable or a write-off?

    I'd say its a write off. Did a hell of a lot of damage, and admittedly I don't know much about the mechanics of an aircraft but I doubt its a little patch up job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭aviator7


    smurfjed wrote: »
    does the A321 have a passenger oxygen system that uses bottles?

    It's an airline option. Chemical or bottled. Most have the chemical generators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Unfortunate accident but not dramatic. One unfortunate person died but everyone else
    survived and the aircraft landed safely......
    I must tell that to my friend who evacuated an A330 two days ago due to a bomb scare, he was lucky that it happened at the gate!

    Anything that is likely to kill you is dramatic in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Unfortunate accident but not dramatic. One unfortunate person died but everyone else
    survived and the aircraft landed safely......
    I must tell that to my friend who evacuated an A330 two days ago due to a bomb scare, he was lucky that it happened at the gate!

    Anything flying event that is likely to kill you is dramatic in my book.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭J.pilkington


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Unfortunate accident but not dramatic. One unfortunate person died but everyone else
    survived and the aircraft landed safely......

    Dude this was a real life event not just a simulation in a few disused buildings.

    Let's look at the facts
    - 5 minutes into the flight and at circa 10,000 ft there was an explosion(explosions are loud) which resulted in a hole (relatively large) in the side of the plane
    - a passenger along with his seat disappears out the hole
    - based on being in the air for 5 minutes it could have taken 10 to turn around and reposition for a landing,
    - during this 10 mins I can only imagine that the pilots priority would be to reposition relatively quickly all the while passengers unaware of wether they will crash and die or survive while in a noisy and windy cabin, with probably a few people making things worse by screaming and moving around,
    - then there is an emergency landing and emergency evacuation to contend with

    Do you really think that these 10 mins (estimated) can be classified as "not that dramatic"

    The fact you are the only poster here with this opinion (plenty of real life aircraft professionals have posted here) makes me think that you are mixing up reality with fantasy land. In real life you don't have the benefit of adrenalin, wanting to be there and expecting stuff like this to happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Truly terrifying experience!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Calm down......
    It is all here and not as dramatic as you might expect

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4934dec0&opt=1
    Dogwatch wrote: »
    Unfortunate accident but not dramatic. One unfortunate person died but everyone else survived and the aircraft landed safely......
    Could I suggest that you stop!
    You are making a complete and utter fool of yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    I think Dogwatch just means in relative terms to Air Accidents this is not that major.
    Yes a person tragically died, but thinking of what it could have been - aircraft completely ripping apart had it been at 35,000 ft - 0 survivors - this is fairly minor - again relatively speaking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I think Dogwatch just means in relative terms to Air Accidents this is not that major.
    Yes a person tragically died, but thinking of what it could have been - aircraft completely ripping apart had it been at 35,000 ft - 0 survivors - this is fairly minor - again relatively speaking.

    Its still terrifying relatively speaking. Its still very dramatic relatively speaking. When someone dies due to a malfunction on an aircraft, its dramatic relatively speaking. If someone kills 100 people in a shopping centre, its terrifying. If someone kills 1, its still fecking terrifying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    Reports that the deceased was the perpetrator of this outrage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Keplar240B wrote: »
    Reports that the decreased was the perpetrator of this outrage.

    Jesus, I thought it was an Oxygen bottle..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    The Wall Street Journal

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/somali-jet-blast-may-have-been-caused-by-suicide-bomber-1454603775
    NAIROBI, Kenya—Investigators believe a passenger who boarded a commercial plane in a wheelchair may have been a suicide bomber responsible for an explosion that tore a hole in the side of the jet as it took off from Somalia’s capital, a Western diplomat briefed on the probe said.

    Investigators’ theory is that the man was able to use the wheelchair to bypass rigorous security screening in Mogadishu and then detonated a bomb that ripped a hole in the fuselage but failed to down the plane. The force of the blast ejected the alleged bomber from the cabin and his body fell to earth near the town of Balad, about 20 miles from Mogadishu, where it was recovered by authorities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭P.lane78


    Karma for the individual involved ....Good PR for Airbus I suggest getting back on the ground albeit from a relatively low altitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Jesus, I thought it was an Oxygen bottle..
    Where was the oxygen bottle??? The A320 has oxygen generators, not bottles.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 821 ✭✭✭eatmyshorts


    Not sure what's worse the fact that someone appears to have got a bomb on the plane or the fact that they don't actually know if anyone is missing or not.

    Welcome to Africa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Where was the oxygen bottle??? The A320 has oxygen generators, not bottles.

    A pax could be on supplementary oxygen for health reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭squonk


    I think in this case it's a good outcome that the only person killed was the bomber and that the rest of the pax survived this. Thankfully in this case he doesn't appear to have done his research and his bomb detonated at an altitude where the aircraft didn't break up. You really have to feel sorry for the other pax. It was an awful experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    In terms of the nature of the attack, I'm wondering if there are any parallels between this one and that which downed the Russian A321 over Sharm el-Sheikh late last year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Where was the oxygen bottle??? The A320 has oxygen generators, not bottles.

    OK, assuming this is true why would the AV Herald article mention it ?

    Surely he should know this ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭pfurey101


    OK, assuming this is true why would the AV Herald article mention it ?

    Surely he should know this ?

    It is true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    pfurey101 wrote: »
    It is true.

    What is true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    http://5newsonline.com/2016/02/05/laptop-bomb-may-have-caused-somalia-airplane-explosion/
    Nairobi, Kenya (CNN) — A laptop computer may have concealed the explosives that ripped a hole in a Somali airliner Tuesday, according to a source familiar with the investigation and a Western official based in Mogadishu.

    The bomb contained a military grade of the explosive TNT, according to the source familiar with the investigation, citing an initial analysis of residue recovered from the aircraft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Nairobi, Kenya, is several countries away from Somalia, the source knows that right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭MoyVilla9


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Nairobi, Kenya, is several countries away from Somalia, the source knows that right?

    Kenya borders Somalia, but what does it matter? That's where the journalist writing the piece is based, which is often the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭radharc


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Nairobi, Kenya, is several countries away from Somalia, the source knows that right?

    Geography fail right there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    Focus has now shifted to the security status of Somalia's main airport in Mogadishu following the government's confirmation that a bomb blew a hole through a jetliners fuselage. The pilot of the plane in question has described the security arrangements at the airport as chaotic. This came as Somali Intelligence officials released CCTV footage of suspects believed to have smuggled a booby trapped laptop onto the Dhaalo airways plane.

    Interview with 64 year old Serb pilot "zero security at airport"



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Considering Somalia is a failed state and is effectively run and controlled by Islamic terrorists then you can well imagine the state of security there.


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