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VRT specific query

  • 29-01-2016 6:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭


    My brother is working in England and has been the last few years, he will be for the next 5 years plus. He has never brought a car back to Ireland,

    Would he be able to bring a car back to Ireland now and be VRT exempt?
    Could I then drive this motor saving thousands in VRT?

    What's the story, there has to be an issue


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    He is allowed to bring it over and it will be exempt from vrt. However a condition of this exemption is that he is the only driver. Him and only him. This applies for 12 months after import.

    I brought a car over and not even my wife was allowed to drive it. Not sure how this is policed, but that's the rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    And also he will only get the VRT exemption if he is moving back to Ireland permanently and can prove this. So if he is staying there for another five years nothing can be done now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    He can transfer the ownership to you after a year, up until that time if he tries to do it he will need to pay the VRT on it that he was originally exempted for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    piobhan wrote: »
    My brother is working in England and has been the last few years, he will be for the next 5 years plus. He has never brought a car back to Ireland,

    Would he be able to bring a car back to Ireland now and be VRT exempt?
    Could I then drive this motor saving thousands in VRT?

    What's the story, there has to be an issue

    The issue is that a) unless he can prove transfer of residence he won't get the exemption and b) he can't transfer ownership to you for 12 months after transfer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭piobhan


    The issue is that a) unless he can prove transfer of residence he won't get the exemption and b) he can't transfer ownership to you for 12 months after transfer.

    The 12 month transfer wouldn't really be an issue, could save thousands on a newer car.
    The transfer of residence is the issue, any way around this or covering it up??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    He is allowed to bring it over and it will be exempt from vrt. However a condition of this exemption is that he is the only driver. Him and only him. This applies for 12 months after import.

    I brought a car over and not even my wife was allowed to drive it. Not sure how this is policed, but that's the rule.

    A car brought in under a temporary exemption can not be driven by an Irish resident. After re-registration in Ireland, whether VRT exempt or not, there are no such restrictions. Ownership cannot be transferred for 12 months after import without paying the VRT due, that's correct. On the face of it the OP's brother won't be able to claim the exemption anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Man11


    As long as he owns the car for six months he can bring it back no problem and no vrt has to be paid , just change it to Irish plates and his wife can drive it .
    Id had no problems doing it anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    Man11 wrote: »
    As long as he owns the car for six months he can bring it back no problem and no vrt has to be paid , just change it to Irish plates and his wife can drive it .
    Id had no problems doing it anyway

    The vehicle owner is not moving to Ireland, how will he be exempt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    From Revenue.ie

    "Are there restrictions on the sale or disposal of a Vehicle which has been granted Tax Relief?

    Yes. You may not sell, dispose of, hire out or lend the vehicle during the 12 months following the date of registration. If you do, the VRT (Customs Duty and VAT if appropriate) must be paid in full."


    The person that avails of the VRT exemption is technically the only person allowed to drive the car for the first 12 months. As I said, this isn't policed. I wouldn't want to find out what happens if you have a smash and the driver wasn't the person that had the exemption with revenue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    No he can't do this unless he is moving permanently to live in Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Man11


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    From Revenue.ie

    "Are there restrictions on the sale or disposal of a Vehicle which has been granted Tax Relief?

    Yes. You may not sell, dispose of, hire out or lend the vehicle during the 12 months following the date of registration. If you do, the VRT (Customs Duty and VAT if appropriate) must be paid in full."


    The person that avails of the VRT exemption is technically the only person allowed to drive the car for the first 12 months. As I said, this isn't policed. I wouldn't want to find out what happens if you have a smash and the driver wasn't the person that had the exemption with revenue.

    Your wife / spouse can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Fair enough, makes sense that they would. However, I was specifically told by the guy that approved my exemption that she couldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Man11


    piobhan wrote: »
    My brother is working in England and has been the last few years, he will be for the next 5 years plus. He has never brought a car back to Ireland,

    Would he be able to bring a car back to Ireland now and be VRT exempt?
    Could I then drive this motor saving thousands in VRT?

    What's the story, there has to be an issue




    You can also use his address over there , tax and insure , mot it over there . Make sure you can have your name and address on letters in the car with you . Nothing customs can do when its like that . Even go as far as change your licence to a UK one if needs be .ways around these things . Loop holes etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Man11


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    Fair enough, makes sense that they would. However, I was specifically told by the guy that approved my exemption that she couldn't.

    .


    Probably on a power trip


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    Man11 wrote: »
    You can also use his address over there , tax and insure , mot it over there . Make sure you can have your name and address on letters in the car with you . Nothing customs can do when its like that . Even go as far as change your licence to a UK one if needs be .ways around these things . Loop holes etc

    I wouldn't follow this advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Man11


    I wouldn't follow this advice.

    Its a loophole in the law . Customs and Gardaí cannot do anything about it .
    As long as they are taxed that is .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    Don't be daft, all they have to do is prove you live in Ireland and you're stuffed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Man11


    Don't be daft, all they have to do is prove you live in Ireland and you're stuffed.




    Well it didn't happen me


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