BRT Swords route possibly axed (updated title to reflect new info)

thomasj

The CEO of the NTA was interviewed on local Dublin 15 station, Phoenix FM last Friday.

In it , she stated that the swords BRT line was axed due to the metro going ahead and the tallaght line to belmaine/Clare hall line was axed due to lack of space.

She did say that the Blanchardstown UCD line is still going ahead and planning submission will be later this year

Markcheese

I know there can be space constraints and bottle necks but we have a serious downer on brt - luas good brt bad ...
To cancel a needed transport link ( brt,) because we're maybe thinking of planning to maybe begin planning to think of building a rail link -budget and political cycles allowing of course....

Irish Steve

Maybe there are some "cultural" underlying reasons for killing some of the BRT's, which are the "I'll only be a minute" parking morons, you know them well, they are sort of parked somewhere near the kerb with the hazard warnings on so that it's invisible, they don't do it on the Luas tracks, because they know the Luas can't go round them, but "shore, they can just move out round me, I won't be long" is a major issue on a route that's busy, and space limited.

If we had drivers that would respect things like double yellow lines, or clearways, and bus lanes in general, maybe BRT's might be a viable option, but with the lack of rigid zero strikes enforcement on high volume routes, the BRT's would fail before they even get started, and that's without the hassles of ticket issues, and not using all the doors that are still ongoing aggravations with the existing services.

tomfoolery60

thomasj wrote:

The CEO of the NTA was interviewed on local Dublin 15 station, Phoenix FM last Friday.

Have you a link? Disappointing to hear, would have been a welcome development

loyatemu

thomasj wrote:

In it , she stated that the swords BRT line was axed due to the metro going ahead

The Metro is not due to be complete for another 10 years!

LeinsterDub

thomasj wrote: »

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In it , she stated that the swords BRT line was axed due to the metro going ahead and the tall

What did she say after the laughter died down?

thomasj

There is a podcast site but don't think its up yet for that show. will post link when it is.

Cookie_Monster

Sure now GF / FF / SF / ETC can now re-announce it as part of the election manifesto

cgcsb

Will someone just say out straight what the policy is? We were told months ago that BRT would be put in as a temporary measure regardless of what happens to metro north?

It's a shame that the Malahide Road corridor won't get one, perfect opportunity for BRT. Although the BRT being proposed isn't really a BRT anyway, it's just the existing QBC+frills.

cgcsb

Will someone just say out straight what the policy is? We were told months ago that BRT would be put in as a temporary measure regardless of what happens to metro north?

It's a shame that the Malahide Road corridor won't get one, perfect opportunity for BRT. Although the BRT being proposed isn't really a BRT anyway, it's just the existing QBC+frills.

monument

cgcsb wrote: »

Will someone just say out straight what the policy is? We were told months ago that BRT would be put in as a temporary measure regardless of what happens to metro north? .

Don't think it was reported on much or at all but real story was that the NTA and Departmemt of Transport had different views on what was going ahead or not.

Carawaystick

Are all bus & bike lane improvements on the route abandoned so?

Tolka Bridge is a dangerous pinch point for example.

LeinsterDub

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Sure now GF / FF / SF / ETC can now re-announce it as part of the election manifesto

FG called to the door. Asked them to explain why I should belive they will deliver mn lite this time and what happened to du. I've been promised a call back. Much like du and mn I'll not hold my breath

ClovenHoof

So Plan Z has been dumped.

So nothing other than election posters will be delivered. (As Usual).

pclive

In a Twitter reply yesterday Paschal Donohoe stated: 'Cap plans includes funding for Blanch-UCD+Clongriffin-Tallaght BRT routes. Swords/Airport-City in the NTA draft strategy

He was asked if the Swords and Tallgaht BRT lines were to be scrapped?

pclive

In a Twitter reply yesterday Paschal Donohoe stated: 'Cap plans includes funding for Blanch-UCD+Clongriffin-Tallaght BRT routes. Swords/Airport-City in the NTA draft strategy

He was asked if the Swords and Tallgaht BRT lines were to be scrapped?

thomasj

Back in November.

I'm just saying that's what what i was told was said on the show.

Show hasn't gone up yet but I'd say will be up shortly I'd say





Its d15 today for Friday 22nd January. Uploads are currently up for up to the 21st January.

tomfoolery60

Can't see anything on other media yet. Hopefully it has not been axed and she misspoke!

tomfoolery60

tomfoolery60 wrote: »

Can't see anything on other media yet. Hopefully it has not been axed and she misspoke!

Update on cycling news site saying not been axed but Swords modified in light of metro (also appears to reference this thread!):

http://irishcycle.com/2016/01/28/bus-rapid-transport-still-the-ticket-for-dublin-says-nta/

monument

The NTA CEO interview was also mentioned to the minister on Twitter.

thomasj

I heard the full interview last night . before that was told what was said and a few people who heard it said it.

I don't know where they got tallaght , tallaght wasn't mentioned at all. Weird that I was told by different people but I listened to it a number of times and there was no mention of tallaght.

What was said was in light of the proposed metro, the swords BRT may be pulled and that they may go ahead with the blanchardstown line first. I don't know where tallaght came from

Anyway told by the radio station they are waiting on the sound engineer to put up the podcast.

monument

Thanks for the update thomasj -- I've changed the thread title to reflect this.