Log cabin.

Kiltris

Do ye know if anyone has ever built an American style log cabin in Ireland.

Kiltris

That's a big fat no then!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I know of a log cabin in Wicklow. It's huge and very nice, but is it an American style log cabin? No idea. It would need planning permission and it's perfessionally put together.

If you are talking about the cabin you see up in the mountains, on TV, then no, I don't know of any and I doubt any exist. I don't believe anywhere in Ireland is so remote that people would not notice after a while. Unless it's on somebodies private land with hectares of forest, I would say it's sadly unlikely. Hopefully somebody here can prove me wrong

Tabnabs

They are about alright, fairly sure there is/was one in the Dublin mountains. Up around Cavan/Monaghan they seem popular. Usually brought in in kits from Scandinavia.

ComfortKid

Just google "log cabins Ireland".

There is some nice residential cabins, fully insulated, installed the whole shabang for handy money.

my3cents

Friend has a "log house" its more heavy timbers than logs. It was their dream home but they don't like it much because it was built by builders who though they knew what they were doing but didn't. Still a nice home, insulated with sheeps wool, nice and warm but the house is very noisy it creaks and growns with changes in temperature.

Kiltris

Any hope of getting a few pictures for me, I'd love to see what idea's other people had. I have a spot that I can buy for handy money, very remote and just a beautiful spot in general. A near by river would supply fresh fish and there is an abundance of rabbit and deer. I realise that it is near impossible to pack in my current life and take to the hills but I would love to build this retreat that I can go to for a week or two at a time.

SNAKEDOC

Im toying with the idea of building a cabin style man cave / shed out the back of my house. I've basically decided on a standard studed wall sheeted and finished with rounded half timber boards with the cabin look. It will be within regulations for a shed without planning permission away from the boundry and within height restrictions and with no fixed base. Google gambrel cabins and you will be surprised how well they look. Log cabins are expensive and will require planning however if you are just planing on having a small retreat then a shed type construction would be much cheaper and you can choose your finish and possibly do a loy of the work yourself. For timber stud construction check out a series of videos by a guy called larry haun on youtube. They were **** back in the 80's i think but some of the best instructional videos ive watched.

SNAKEDOC

Something a bit like this is what im hoping for

SNAKEDOC

A cabin in the woods is something all survivalists would dream about and even a small 12x16 or 12x20 gambrel cabin would have room for a kitchen bathroom and lofted bedroom with composting toilets these days and bio water filters a little escape cabin is easily achievable with the right motivation. The only issue of course is power if your away from the grid lines any distance. Let us know what you plan

ComfortKid

SNAKEDOC wrote:

Something a bit like this is what im hoping for

More of a garden shed than a log cabin that you would leave in the wildernesses?

SNAKEDOC

not really. The construction is normally stud walls of 2x4 which is more than the best garden shed plus a sheetig and finish. For a shed or cabin whatever you call it if the size i want it it will be a mile cheaper than the equivilant solid log cabin which is basically toungue in grouve timber stacked on one another. With proper anchors and proper construction it would last as long as a log cabin

Kiltris

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

Something a bit like this is what im hoping for

Have you ever done a costing on a build like this cabin? This is exactly the kind of thing I'm after.

my3cents

I have two bought sheds that size and I build chicken sheds etc...

2K would get you all the materials and probably the insulation, except say the windows. Windows can be done cheaply or be very expensive depends what you want.

That shed in SNAKEDOC's picture is only made of rounded ship lap its not logs.

Watch Ryder

Well I can't speak of Ireland but for logs you can get them for free in some US states. The the only catch is you have to get the truck to move them to your location and that can cost approx $10,000.

I think if you had a forest with lots of standing dead wood (that is recent) you could maybe get a pole cabin built in Ireland? Not sure on what log prices are in Ireland either.

ComfortKid

There's a company in Ireland selling some kind of Swedish logs, supposedly the best timber to build with and long lasting. Would save a lot on transport too. Will post link

Jimmy Garlic

ComfortKid wrote: »

Just google "log cabins Ireland".

There is some nice residential cabins, fully insulated, installed the whole shabang for handy money.

Sorry to be pedantic but those yolks are not really log cabins, they are glorified garden sheds. A log cabin has to be built with actual logs in my book.

ComfortKid

Jimmy Garlic wrote:

Sorry to be pedantic but those yolks are not really log cabins, they are glorified garden sheds. A log cabin has to be built with actual logs in my book.

The OP posted the kind of cabin he would like and they are identical to the ones on LogCabinsEire? I replied that its more of a garden shed too.

Watch Ryder

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Sorry to be pedantic but those yolks are not really log cabins, they are glorified garden sheds. A log cabin has to be built with actual logs in my book.

It takes many dozens of logs to build a Jeremiah Johnson cabin. In Ireland there isn't the same surplus alas.

A halfway measure could be what I'm doing, which is a kind of pole-barn cabin. Logs for the frame and roof (very sturdy), and internal walls with plywood with boards as an external layer. At a later stage you could reclad it with half-logs or something for the log-cabin effect on the walls.

This is what I mean (not at the finished stage yet but you'll get the idea).



It's not the same style, but you need only half as many logs than you would for an 'authentic' log cabin when it's finished.

Freddiestar

Kiltris wrote: »

Do ye know if anyone has ever built an American style log cabin in Ireland.

There's a fairly big log cabin type house on the road to The Long Womans Grave from Omeath in Co Louth, it's right on the main road so you can't miss it.

SNAKEDOC

Cost wise unless your willing to spend €100,000 or more a lig cabin with actual logs or manufactured flat logs is pretty much impossible unless you have a pine forest handy and can harvest all you want. Cost of a cabin like the ine i suggested which may be timber frame but are still called cabins just not log cabins as someone pointed out work out ten times cheaper that is around the €10,000 mark for good quality timber thats treated and material to make the cabin weather proof. As for them being glorified garden sheds all homes in the US are built with a timber frame and are far from garden sheds. The average shed is built with at best 2x2 and feather board cladding on the outside which is flimsy enough for a man to move an entire wall by homself. On the ither hand a 2x4 wall with plywood then hiuse wrap and finishing plus insulation and cladding on the inside makes for a sound structure so much that the walls can support not only a roof but a loft space or second floor easily. Obviously if building a big structure proper foundations are a must. There are lots if mills around where material can be sourced in bulk and perhaps a discount for bulk buying of timber roofing felt shingles plywood or osb and anything else needed. Building yourself will drive the cost way down and having a cabin you built yourself will give great pride every rime you use it. Clever use if a tarp or plastic covering could allow a build to take several months also if you want to build as you earn which i eill more than likely do. I'll post here when i start mine

Watch Ryder

Wise words SnakeDoc. Even at my wilderness retreat which has pine everywhere I can't use many because they aren't suitable or straight enough. I'd need to rent a special logging truck and trailer with grabber to get the bulk supply moved from federal surplus area and to my retreat.

Buy a bunch of boards, some wall posts for the roof, work your square, it's not easy, but it isn't as hard as the professionals make out.

SNAKEDOC

Here's a link to some of the videos on framing floors walls and roofs. Using these basic steps a cabin style building can be built by pretty much anyone as long as the principle rules are adeared too.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4B8173887CB4CD24