Uber Ridesharing

I Was VB

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/uber-ireland-limerick-2542218-Jan2016/

Looks like anyone who want to be a ad-hock taxi driver will soon be able to

kneemos

Doubt it,given the legislation and Taxi drivers fondness for striking.
They're here for the tax breaks presumably. Paying their VAT in the Netherlands is class.

Tigger

I was in security years ago and there were defiantly preparatory men driving around trying to pick up drunk women who while offereing lifts
This shouldn't happen

Canis Lupus

Tigger wrote: »

I was in security years ago and there were defiantly preparatory men driving around trying to pick up drunk women who while offereing lifts
This shouldn't happen

Preparatory men are the worst alright.

However why is Uber more dangerous than any other form of personal transport for a drunk individual?

I book uber I know the car, the licence plate and I get a picture of the driver before I get into the car. A driver normally can't operate in Uber unless they have like a 4.7 out of 5 stars or something like that.

Each driver has a security check done and the car(in Australia) has 2 road worthy checks done a year.

Or I could get into a **** heap taxi, pay more for the same service and lets face it, who takes notice of who the driver is supposed to be, the taxi number or licence plate. If I was a 'preparatory' man I'd drive a licenced taxi. Sure women would trust me more and it would be easier to not be traced...


EDIT: Furthermore every Uber I've taken has been great. Because they need high ratings their customer service is great, they're polite, chatty if you want, quiet if you want but always with a smile on their face. One guy even offered to turn off the meter and loop back around a dual carraigeway road system to let me off on the right side of the road. Their customer service centre is something I've never had to use but anyone that has had a complaint seems to have near instant resolutions to their problems. I'd wonder why anyone would want to use a normal taxi tbh.

Foxtrol

Tigger wrote: »

I was in security years ago and there were defiantly preparatory men driving around trying to pick up drunk women who while offereing lifts
This shouldn't happen

Constantly use it when in the States. Think it's as safe, if not safer, than normal taxis. It's definitely a better overall service and costs less.

Don't see them pushing through legislation though in the next few years, I dont think the government will want the hassle of more strikes/unrest as the public really isnt clamoring for it.

Tigger

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Preparatory men are the worst alright.

However why is Uber more dangerous than any other form of personal transport for a drunk individual?

I book uber I know the car, the licence plate and I get a picture of the driver before I get into the car. A driver normally can't operate in Uber unless they have like a 4.7 out of 5 stars or something like that.

Each driver has a security check done and the car(in Australia) has 2 road worthy checks done a year.

Or I could get into a **** heap taxi, pay more for the same service and lets face it, who takes notice of who the driver is supposed to be, the taxi number or licence plate. If I was a 'preparatory' man I'd drive a licenced taxi. Sure women would trust me more and it would be easier to not be traced...


EDIT: Furthermore every Uber I've taken has been great. Because they need high ratings their customer service is great, they're polite, chatty if you want, quiet if you want but always with a smile on their face. One guy even offered to turn off the meter and loop back around a dual carraigeway road system to let me off on the right side of the road. Their customer service centre is something I've never had to use but anyone that has had a complaint seems to have near instant resolutions to their problems. I'd wonder why anyone would want to use a normal taxi tbh.

While you have certain insight in the post using prepatory twice just makes me think you're mean

RDM_83 again

I don't really see the point of Uber if your in say Dublin, loads of taxi's and Halo works well. Places where the number of plates are restricted it makes sense and I've used it.

KomradeBishop

What they are doing isn't particularly innovative, what it is is a way of generating an artificial monopoly, by trying to get Taxi drivers locked-in to using the Uber app infrastructure - when there's nothing that innovative about it that others can't do, it's just a matter of "who gains popularity first, wins all".

Then when the monopoly is in place, and competition is pushed off (easy to do with the amount of financial backing they have, as they can make it run at a loss for as long as it takes to get rid of competition), they'll have inserted themselves as an intermediary between drivers and customers, able to extract rents from both - the aim is for drivers to have no real choice in the matter, so they can have their wages slashed/held-down without much ability to do anything about it, and for customers to get screwed with 'surge' charges - i.e. just plain-old price gouging, put under a new name.

Bad for drivers and for customers in the long run, and for competition in the Taxi market overall, as it'll be setting in place an artificial monopoly. Remember an artificial monopoly is arguably the primary aim of the company, more than anything else.

It's a shíthole of a company really, undertaking ugly practices like trying to intimidate journalists who are critical of them - among many more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uber_%28company%29#Threatening_journalists

listermint

tbh im on the fence about the whole Uber thing.

I mean im in no sense 'pro taxi drivers etc' but those lads have to pay for their cars to be NCT'd Yearly, the cars now have to have an age limit and condition, They have to Pay excessive insurance costs because they are defined as a PSV. They have to pay for Metering installations and tests etc.

There is loads of costs associated with running a taxi as a self income. And some randomer off the street can just come along with their own car and undercut all that.


..... Its not exactly 'right' now is it.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

listermint wrote: »

tbh im on the fence about the whole Uber thing.

I mean im in no sense 'pro taxi drivers etc' but those lads have to pay for their cars to be NCT'd Yearly, the cars now have to have an age limit and condition, They have to Pay excessive insurance costs because they are defined as a PSV. They have to pay for Metering installations and tests etc.

There is loads of costs associated with running a taxi as a self income. And some randomer off the street can just come along with their own car and undercut all that.


..... Its not exactly 'right' now is it.

This post implies that you are against competition in the market place. If it can be done cheaper, how is that "wrong"?

Ush1

listermint wrote: »

tbh im on the fence about the whole Uber thing.

I mean im in no sense 'pro taxi drivers etc' but those lads have to pay for their cars to be NCT'd Yearly, the cars now have to have an age limit and condition, They have to Pay excessive insurance costs because they are defined as a PSV. They have to pay for Metering installations and tests etc.

There is loads of costs associated with running a taxi as a self income. And some randomer off the street can just come along with their own car and undercut all that.


..... Its not exactly 'right' now is it.

What isn't right is artificially propping up a potentially dying industry.

KomradeBishop

Chase Grumpy Web wrote: »

This post implies that you are against competition in the market place. If it can be done cheaper, how is that "wrong"?

It's not competition - that's the first myth to be busted here. Uber is about eliminating competition, by establishing itself as the dominant monopoly Taxi app - and then squeezing its employees and customers once that monopoly is in place.

Cienciano

listermint wrote: »

tbh im on the fence about the whole Uber thing.

I mean im in no sense 'pro taxi drivers etc' but those lads have to pay for their cars to be NCT'd Yearly, the cars now have to have an age limit and condition, They have to Pay excessive insurance costs because they are defined as a PSV. They have to pay for Metering installations and tests etc.

There is loads of costs associated with running a taxi as a self income. And some randomer off the street can just come along with their own car and undercut all that.


..... Its not exactly 'right' now is it.

Maybe it's needed, bringing someone from A to B in a car shouldn't need so much red tape and cost. Hopefully uber comes in and changes all that.
Can't picture it happening myself.

mad muffin

I don't like sharing my ride, thank you very much.

The Backwards Man

I think Uber is a massive white elephant myself.

It currently works in areas where there the quality and quantity of regulated taxis is low, but once regulations catch up with it, once tax authorities catch up with it, once insurance claims and lawsuits catch up with it, once the turnover of disenchanted drivers who have invested their time and money in becoming a lackey for a middleman who cares not that their vehicle is now worth half that of a private car, they are now at the mercy of the taxman or that their take home for the year works out much less than the minimum wage, the costs of incentivising new drivers will be too big.


Their ultimate endgame is their own driverless fleet with a monopoly on the market, but competition, costs, and the fact the technology is years if not decades away, mean I can't see it ever being a reality.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Shouldn't this be in the conspiracy theories forum?

Also, how exactly is this a monopoly?

The_Valeyard

Chase Grumpy Web wrote: »

Shouldn't this be in the conspiracy theories forum?

Also, how exactly is this a monopoly?

The feckin Jesuits have it all sewn up!

the groutch

Anyone else reading the title think this thread was about threesomes?

maudgonner

the groutch wrote: »

Anyone else reading the title think this thread was about threesomes?

Yup, and it's given me a great idea for a new app.

I'm gonna be a BILLUNAIRE!