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What cars to consider under €1000 that will deliver the best economy

  • 15-01-2016 8:33pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭


    I am at a place where I can not afford to pay over €1000 for a car that will provide me with the lowest running costs possible.

    Lowest MPG
    Lowest Tax
    Well recognized as having low maintenance costs
    Some what comfortable as i'm 6 feet tall
    Storage space.

    I expect to be travelling both urban and rural. I'm driving along with aprox 800-1000 miles a month motorway/ N road driving. And stopping and starting up to four days a week in the city.

    From what I have learned the 1.3 Toyota Corolla lift back with the pre-VVTI engine is by far the best bet 1996-1998 as the shape went up to 2002 the are quite nippy for that they are, they rarely break down and they will provide me with plus 40 mpg and good boot space.

    If anybody has alternatives I would be very interested in hearing your point of view.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭vw4life


    I get about 600 miles from a tank in my 00 Astra 1.7 diesel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,763 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Has to be a 1 litre car if you want lowest tax surely that rules out the Corolla?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    vw4life wrote: »
    I get about 600 miles from a tank in my 00 Astra 1.7 diesel

    Thanks for the reply, how is the reliability? how much to fill the tank?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Has to be a 1 litre car if you want lowest tax surely that rules out the Corolla?

    I also have an issue with comfort Atlantic Dawn. I'm tallish and I can be very uncomfortable in a small car. I appreciate your advise and your right a 1l will be the cheapest to run, but I'm hesitant getting a small hatchback.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Toyota Corolla from the start of the century would be your best bet although with insurance companies refusing cars older than 12 years it might be an issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭thadg


    1 litre cars are usually very small, if you value your life buy something abit bigger and safer . plenty Nissan almeras and primeras 1.4 or 1.6 for handy money on donedeal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭vw4life


    voz es wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply, how is the reliability? how much to fill the tank?
    Usually around €50
    When I got it at 130,000 miles it needed a new head gasket which had failed due to the previous owners neglect.
    Has 240,000 now and I've replaced a wiper linkage and starter motor in the last couple of years.
    I also change the oil and filter every 5000 mls and change the air and fuel filter once a year before the nct.
    I bought it 8 years ago as a cheap runaround and now I wouldn't sell it for love or money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    voz es wrote: »
    I am at a place where I can not afford to pay over €1000 for a car that will provide me with the lowest running costs possible.

    Lowest MPG
    Lowest Tax
    Well recognized as having low maintenance costs
    Some what comfortable as i'm 6 feet tall
    Storage space.

    I expect to be travelling both urban and rural. I'm driving along with aprox 800-1000 miles a month motorway/ N road driving. And stopping and starting up to four days a week in the city.

    From what I have learned the 1.3 Toyota Corolla lift back with the pre-VVTI engine is by far the best bet 1996-1998 as the shape went up to 2002 the are quite nippy for that they are, they rarely break down and they will provide me with plus 40 mpg and good boot space.

    If anybody has alternatives I would be very interested in hearing your point of view.

    A corolla is a good option or a Honda civic. The corolla will be a bit more economical though (if both are 1.4)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    If you want a comfortable car for tall people the Mazda Demio is a very practical small estate. 2000 model onwards is a better drive.
    I have a friend who is a basketball player, he finds it hard to get comfortable in many cars but the Demio was very comfortable for him.
    Cheap insurance, reliable and fuel efficient.
    Also not sought after by boy racers which helps both insurance and theft ratings for insurance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭polan


    B5 Passat 1.9 TDI.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    polan wrote: »
    B5 Passat 1.9 TDI.
    Lowest tax?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    1.4 Corolla vvti or a 1.6 Avensis


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭The Sidewards Man


    633cc cunttogetinto


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭polan


    Considering maintenance costs and fuel economy it would make sense though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    In the sub €1k bracket you'll have to dig though a lot of cars to find what you want. Best bet is to check cars local and try and get someone else to look at the cars with you, ideally it should be a mechanic but at that price range you'll soon spend more for mechanics, so that you hopefully don't miss anything with 2 sets of eyes looking.

    I wouldn't discount any car or brands once you decide how much tax your willing to pay as for every car with a bad reputation a lot are still good and "bulletproof" cars sometimes get very little maintenance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    polan wrote: »
    Considering maintenance costs and fuel economy it would make sense though.

    For Fuel economy it would but that's about it. The Passat won't be cheaper to maintain than the petrol alternatives mention in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,904 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Is it worth taxing a car that's greater than 1.4k that costs less than 1,000?
    Would it not be cheaper to let them seize it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    I'm currently driving a '98 Mazda 323F as a bangernomics beater. Cost me €400 back last August with a years test on it. So far all I've had to put into it is fuel, windscreen wash and a drop of oil. Its a 1.5 so not the cheapest to tax (€116 for 3 months) but its averaging 42mpg over the last 8k miles so even if it blew up on me tomorrow I've definitely gotten my value out of it.

    I'm just 6 ft tall and there's sufficient head/leg/elbow room for me. Practical enough being a 5 door with folding rear seats. Tis no stunner, but definitely one of the best VFM cars we've had on the driveway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    If you can find a 99/00 Civic 1.4 (EJ9) saloon or hatch that hasn't been destroyed by some boy child racer and has less than 100k miles on it. They're very reliable, very cheap to repair in the unlikely event something does go wrong and will do 40-44mpg all day long on mixed journeys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    How about Seat Arosa/VW Lupo, min tax 40ish to the gallon, 5 speed. Carries a lot with rear seat down. Good head room for 6ft plus. Reliable too


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Might want to consider getting a quote for insurance first. People are finding it hard this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    Cheap to buy
    Cheap to tax
    Cheap to insure
    Cheap to fuel
    Cheap to keep running
    For sale within a reasonable distance.

    Pick 3 id say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    I find it interesting that nobody recommends the 1.4 golf. They were something that I was wondering about but nobody seems to talk that highly of them as opposed to the ones mentioned here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭johnayo


    voz es wrote: »
    I find it interesting that nobody recommends the 1.4 golf. They were something that I was wondering about but nobody seems to talk that highly of them as opposed to the ones mentioned here

    They are a fine car if you could get a well maintained one. Unfortunately they don't like the use of cheap oil in the engine. Also not the lightest on fuel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    voz es wrote: »
    I find it interesting that nobody recommends the 1.4 golf. They were something that I was wondering about but nobody seems to talk that highly of them as opposed to the ones mentioned here

    The engine in the 1.4. Golf isn't the best. It's known to give oil and emmision problems. It's also not the most powerful 1.4 out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    voz es wrote: »
    I find it interesting that nobody recommends the 1.4 golf. They were something that I was wondering about but nobody seems to talk that highly of them as opposed to the ones mentioned here

    The chances of finding a sub €1k Golf 1.4 that isn't burning oil like a Kuwaiti oil field or needing other work costing more than the car is worth are very slim. Any good ones you will find will be going for more than €1k.

    My advise is stick to the likes of a 1997 to 2000 Toyota Corolla 1.3 litre EFi if you want cheap motoring.

    Examples:

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-nct09-16-tax02-16/11292460

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-toyota-corolla-1-3-petrol/11269115


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Thanks for all he help folks. he 97-00 corolla efi is what i have been looking at. I like the 1.4 civic coupe also but the very practical lift back corolla would seem to be the best bet for my needs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    voz es wrote: »
    Thanks for all he help folks. he 97-00 corolla efi is what i have been looking at. I like the 1.4 civic coupe also but the very practical lift back corolla would seem to be the best bet for my needs.
    Have you checked insurance on these... especially a civic? You could be in for a nasty shock to your tight budget!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    voz es wrote: »
    Thanks for all he help folks. he 97-00 corolla efi is what i have been looking at. I like the 1.4 civic coupe also but the very practical lift back corolla would seem to be the best bet for my needs.

    The corolla are a grand reliable car . My mother has a 98 one of them but as im 6 foot 6 tall i find there is very little space in it for me. Knees on the dash job . And i find the steering wheel very low too.

    I had a 02 1.4 golf up to last year myself for nearly 10 years. i knew the car from new. apart from standard servicing the car caused me no problems whatsoever. It did burn a small bit of oil but never had emission problems.
    Loads of space in that car for a tall person.
    The car was getting 35/40mpg driven on with 50/50 long short drives. Drive like a granny and she would get 45mpg
    She would have been worth more than a grand though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Have you checked insurance on these... especially a civic? You could be in for a nasty shock to your tight budget!

    The insurance is 120 on top of my current 1.8 petrol i was surprised and glad of this message prior to viewing. I went ahead and bought the car. It was a 5 door hatchback with 118 miles on it. I go it for €200, it need about 300 work including parts. i will have this car going for 700 it is inside budget but if i wasn't in such a rust I would have held out for the corolla life back 97-99 1.3.

    Still fingers crossed on happy motoring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    voz es wrote: »
    The insurance is 120 on top of my current 1.8 petrol i was surprised and glad of this message prior to viewing. I went ahead and bought the car. It was a 5 door hatchback with 118 miles on it. I go it for €200, it need about 300 work including parts. i will have this car going for 700 it is inside budget but if i wasn't in such a rust I would have held out for the corolla life back 97-99 1.3.

    Still fingers crossed on happy motoring.

    If you don't mind me asking What kind car did you buy?


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