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Paid speeches

  • 13-01-2016 9:57pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭


    If you have a spare $300,000 USD laying around the place it is supposedly possible (at least in theory) to get Bill Clinton over to your event and make a speech. Your event can be anything from a debaucherous party of rich kids or some very serious climate change conference filled with wealthy South Dubliners with a few bob to spend on subsidised windmills, and Bill should at least in theory show up, make his speech (on anything you want), take his money and feck off.

    But why in the almighty feck would someone pay for such a service and why would anyone listen to what he has to say, since its public knowledge you can get Bill over to utter a few sentences in return for a wad of cash? If you get Bill over to make a speech at your windmill conference he's not going to tell everyone there to invest in diesel generators instead or he'd soon find his source of handy money drying up.

    An even more laughable practice is that of the local TD charging a 2,000e appearance fee to cut a ribbon at the local school that was built using public funds and commissioned by himself. Does anyone go home and say "I had a really great day because Johnny Bollix TD Cllr. showed up and cut the ribbon instead of one of the local 5 year olds"?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I remember Bertie going round the place giving paid speeches on how other countries could replicate the Celtic Tiger. He was giving one in some South American country on the very day that we formally applied for/got our bailout (forget which one it was).

    Well worth the money I'm sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I've introduced Guns n Roses before. Nice bit of a money earner. Plus I'm allowed get pissed beforehand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    What TD got paid an appearance fee for a school opening? Don't chat sh1te.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Senna wrote: »
    What TD got paid an appearance fee for a school opening? Don't chat sh1te.

    Micheal Martin and the rest of the FF clan. It wouldn't have to be a whole school, could be just a new extension


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    The publicity of having slippery Bill appearing will be enormous. Front page pic on the papers. RTE news coverage: drooling by the great and good and the crooked as well. Plus you share in the ahem, after glow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Micheal Martin and the rest of the FF clan. It wouldn't have to be a whole school, could be just a new extension
    Where did a public school get the money to pay, and why weren't there a dozen politicians falling over themselves for the free publicity?

    If that happened then the people running the school are as much to blaim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    It's just a legal way of engaging in bribery really.

    They are kickbacks with the aim of getting political help - the actual speech has nothing to do with it, it's the equivalent of paying someone a quarter of a million for a mars bar - it's trying to legitimise it as a transaction, rather than a bribe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Where did a public school get the money to pay, and why weren't there a dozen politicians falling over themselves for the free publicity?

    If that happened then the people running the school are as much to blaim.

    ""Voluntary"" ""donations"" by the parents to the board of management.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Anyone else get one of these... :pac::pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    osarusan wrote: »
    I remember Bertie going round the place giving paid speeches on how other countries could replicate the Celtic Tiger. He was giving one in some South American country on the very day that we formally applied for/got our bailout (forget which one it was).

    Well worth the money I'm sure.

    Could be actually. Just rename it "Do not do, what this guys says or did"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    ""Voluntary"" ""donations"" by the parents to the board of management.
    Is there a news report of this or is it just rumor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Imagine if it was about collecting on corruption...

    Politician scratches someones back but can't be seen to collect bribe..

    Politician retires..

    Politician amazed by dazzling success in new career giving speeches in foreign countries..

    Imagine :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    If you have a spare $300,000 USD laying around the place it is supposedly possible (at least in theory) to get Bill Clinton over to your event and make a speech. Your event can be anything from a debaucherous party of rich kids or some very serious climate change conference filled with wealthy South Dubliners with a few bob to spend on subsidised windmills, and Bill should at least in theory show up, make his speech (on anything you want), take his money and feck off.

    But why in the almighty feck would someone pay for such a service and why would anyone listen to what he has to say, since its public knowledge you can get Bill over to utter a few sentences in return for a wad of cash? If you get Bill over to make a speech at your windmill conference he's not going to tell everyone there to invest in diesel generators instead or he'd soon find his source of handy money drying up.

    An even more laughable practice is that of the local TD charging a 2,000e appearance fee to cut a ribbon at the local school that was built using public funds and commissioned by himself. Does anyone go home and say "I had a really great day because Johnny Bollix TD Cllr. showed up and cut the ribbon instead of one of the local 5 year olds"?

    William's rate was a little less a few years ago. Made payable to his charity. I had dinner with him and a few (hundred) others. I'm neither a rich kid nor a South Sider but his speech was excellent. Maybe not hundreds of thousand excellent but it cost me nothing to attend. Plenty of wealthy business people in the room helped foot the Bill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    PARlance wrote: »
    William's rate was a little less a few years ago. Made payable to his charity. I had dinner with him and a few (hundred) others. I'm neither a rich kid nor a South Sider but his speech was excellent. Maybe not hundreds of thousand excellent but it cost me nothing to attend. Plenty of wealthy business people in the room helped foot the Bill.

    What, they kicked him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    I think this is all a ludicrous expense and I think Clinton is a sham, but he's one of the most impressive speech makers of his generation. Much better than Obama, Cameron, or any world leader I can think of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    a FF TD would turn up for the opening of a packet of crisps if they're getting paid enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    a FF TD would turn up for the opening of a packet of crisps if they're getting paid enough.

    I dont think TDs or councilors are paid for speeches. They might get a free dinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    What, they kicked him?

    Cheque, mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    We all know the first line of the speech he would use at your function..

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    osarusan wrote: »
    I remember Bertie going round the place giving paid speeches on how other countries could replicate the Celtic Tiger. He was giving one in some South American country on the very day that we formally applied for/got our bailout (forget which one it was).

    Well worth the money I'm sure.

    Bertie still does gigs

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,551 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Bertie still does gigs

    Like hiding in a cupboard for a sleazy newspaper advert, the little loathsome snake


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    a FF TD would turn up for the opening of a packet of crisps if they're getting paid enough.

    Yeah but they'd be annoying you for some of the pack for themselves.


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