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RBS - Sell everything!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    Anybody see this?;

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/12/sell-everything-ahead-of-stock-market-crash-say-rbs-economists

    Pretty dramatic statement to make.

    Are we heading for a "cataclysmic year"?

    US junk bonds are predicting around a 45% chance of default in the US according to the Bloomberg. Like the US economy is performing stronger than expected, so it is hard to tell why a recession might occur. Probably the risk of a lot of oil job losses.

    The stock market bursting is understandable as QE was inflating a lot of share prices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    Personally, I'm hoping for a very steep fall so that I can load up on cheap shares. Bears are where wealth is made for those with the right temperament.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Money to be made shorting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 eamo17o


    I'm considering buying etfs that short stock such as ProShares UltraShort etfs - Anybody use these before?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    Jim Rickards: Fed raised rates too late..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0FJAeVqAk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Roonbox


    daveirl wrote: »
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    I'm not sure about that Dave, its been a Bull market for 7 years straight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    daveirl wrote:
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    Two months is hardly a time frame to consider profits locked in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭ranger4


    Uncertainties with Brexit will have dampening effect for financials including bkir which is exposed to uk market, would imagine many investors/traders will book profits with recent rally expecting indices/stocks to trade lower over summer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    ranger4 wrote: »
    Uncertainties with Brexit will have dampening effect for financials including bkir which is exposed to uk market


    Interested to learn more about BKIR exposure, do you have any good sources?

    cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    ranger4 wrote: »
    Uncertainties with Brexit will have dampening effect for financials including bkir which is exposed to uk market, would imagine many investors/traders will book profits with recent rally expecting indices/stocks to trade lower over summer.

    AFAIK the only thing going in the UK for them was one of 3 banks providing retail banking services (Savings & Current a/c's ?) through the UK Post Office Network, which is unlikely to give rise to any concerns about a possible 'exposure'?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    jon1981 wrote: »
    Interested to learn more about BKIR exposure, do you have any good sources?

    cheers

    Half of BKIR's mortgage book (GBP denominated). Big exposure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭b4bmm


    Such bull**** headlines.
    You could find an equally convincing article that would say the exact opposite probably on the same day, through a different media provider.

    Media is a business.
    You only have to pay to get an article like this puslished. Don't buy into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭1st dalkey dalkey


    Cataclysmic?
    Well, for a while it did look that way if you were deep into oil, but that seems to have recovered, for now at least.
    Basic metals have also taken a heavy fall and no sign of any big rebound as yet.
    But a well diversified portfolio is probably doing ok.
    The big money from QE's worldwide is a worry. When that money starts to run for cover there will be a big drop. But where is the cover to run to? As long as rates stay 'lower for longer' I wont panic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Cataclysmic?
    Well, for a while it did look that way if you were deep into oil, but that seems to have recovered, for now at least.
    Basic metals have also taken a heavy fall and no sign of any big rebound as yet.
    But a well diversified portfolio is probably doing ok.
    The big money from QE's worldwide is a worry. When that money starts to run for cover there will be a big drop. But where is the cover to run to? As long as rates stay 'lower for longer' I wont panic.

    Unrestricted investment into China.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭1st dalkey dalkey


    I think, at the moment, there is a lot more coming out of China then going in. There is a reason for that.
    When their own feel it a good idea to get some of their money out, it doesn't breed great confidence that there will be a great rush into China. At least until their markets are less centrally controlled.
    China will open up more going forward, but it will be a slow and controlled process. It is a very different society to ours.


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