9.15 hour minimum wage

CobraClan

Should I be getting 9.15 an hour minimum wage? I work in a factory for 8.65 an hour, after Christmas I thought my wages would go up 50 cent an hour but when I got my wages it was still 8.65 an hour! I am 38 years old, iv been working here for just over a year and do a 40 hours a week! I thought minimum wage was raised to 9.15 an hour starting on the 1St of January! I haven't been able to talk to my boss as he has not been here since before Christmas! Can he refuse to raise money my wages by 50cent an hour? Why haven't I got my raise yet?

toadfly

Yes you should be on €9.15/hour, speak to your boss.

Polo_Mint

CobraClan wrote: »

Should I be getting 9.15 an hour minimum wage? I work in a factory for 8.65 an hour, after Christmas I thought my wages would go up 50 cent an hour but when I got my wages it was still 8.65 an hour! I am 38 years old, iv been working here for just over a year and do a 40 hours a week! I thought minimum wage was raised to 9.15 an hour starting on the 1St of January! I haven't been able to talk to my boss as he has not been here since before Christmas! Can he refuse to raise money my wages by 50cent an hour? Why haven't I got my raise yet?

Are you paid weekly?

National minimum wage
Since 1 January 2016, under SI 442/2015, the national minimum wage for an experienced adult employee is €9.15 per hour. An experienced adult employee for the purposes of the National Minimum Wage Act is an employee who has an employment of any kind in any 2 years over the age of 18 - see also 'Rates' section below. You can read this list of frequently asked questions on the national minimum wage.

However, the national minimum wage (NMW) does not stop an employer from offering a higher wage.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/pay_and_employment/pay_inc_min_wage.html

CobraClan

toadfly wrote: »

Yes you should be on €9.15/hour, speak to your boss.

He hasn't been here since before Christmas which is funny because he's normally here all the time! I said it to the accountant who makes the wages up every week and he said he knows nothing about the wages going up, I'll have to talk to the boss! He also said he doesn't have to give me the raise if he doesn't want to!

wardides

CobraClan wrote: »

Should I be getting 9.15 an hour minimum wage? I work in a factory for 8.65 an hour, after Christmas I thought my wages would go up 50 cent an hour but when I got my wages it was still 8.65 an hour! I am 38 years old, iv been working here for just over a year and do a 40 hours a week! I thought minimum wage was raised to 9.15 an hour starting on the 1St of January! I haven't been able to talk to my boss as he has not been here since before Christmas! Can he refuse to raise money my wages by 50cent an hour? Why haven't I got my raise yet?

Depends on how you get paid? Do you get paid monthly or weekly? It came in on the 1st of Janaury, so for example if you're paid monthly then you won't see it until you're paid for this months hours.

JJayoo

CobraClan wrote: »

I said it to the accountant who makes the wages up every week and he said he knows nothing about the wages going up,/quote]

So the accountant doesn't know that the min wage has gone up.....ha?

CobraClan

I get paid on a weekly basis!

Polo_Mint

CobraClan wrote: »

He hasn't been here since before Christmas which is funny because he's normally here all the time! I said it to the accountant who makes the wages up every week and he said he knows nothing about the wages going up, I'll have to talk to the boss! He also said he doesn't have to give me the raise if he doesn't want to!

Mail him this

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/pay_and_employment/pay_inc_min_wage.html

toadfly

Mighty accountant they have there. Get them to look it up online and make sure you get it back dated to January 1st. We just changed our weekly guys over from 28th December as it was easier!

testicle

If you get paid weekly, you're most likely paid in arrears. The first pay week for 2016 is this week, last weeks pay would have been for Week 53 in 2015.

CobraClan

testicle wrote: »

If you get paid weekly, you're most likely paid in arrears. The first pay week for 2016 is this week, last weeks pay would have been for Week 53 in 2015.

That's what I was thinking! I'm going to see what my wages are this week, I get paid on Thursdays so hopefully your right! The last thing I want is to have to make a big fuss over this, I shouldn't have to but if it's not gone up this week I'm going to run a muck!

Mrs OBumble

CobraClan wrote: »

I am 38 years old, iv been working here for just over a year and do a 40 hours a week!

Have you also worked for more than two years - anywhere, any number of hours - since turning 18? If so, then your wage from 1 Jan 2016 should be 9.15.

NB there is one scenario which sees your take-home pay decrease, I've outlined in in this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057547000 But this should not apply to you if you're full time year-round.

CobraClan

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Have you also worked for more than two years - anywhere, any number of hours - since turning 18? If so, then your wage from 1 Jan 2016 should be 9.15.

NB there is one scenario which sees your take-home pay decrease, I've outlined in in this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057547000 But this should not iapply to you if you're full time year-round.

I've been working full time since I was 16! I was unemployed for 4 years before I started this job!

CobraClan

So got my wages today and it seems im still only getting 8.65 an hour instead of the 9.15 hourly rate! Went into the accountant again as the boss hasnt been in yet, still trying to say that he hasnt heard anything about it yet. So i went onto the Citizen Advise web page and printed a copy of the National Minimum Wage Rates and gave him a copy. He then told me if i go up to 9.15 an hour i would be moved to a higher tax band in which i would pay more tax and come out with less money every week than what i come out with now! That is bull i said to him, what type of acountant are you, you dont even know what the minimum wage is! I also asked him to get in touch with the boss and let us know whats going on! I said that I exspect to be backdated for the 2 weeks i wasnt payed for properly and that im not happy with them holden out on me.

So hoping to see the boss Monday! I feel like they think im idiot or something, trying to even put me off the raise with BS about tax, haha!

toadfly

If they keep this up, contact NERA and let them handle it. Revenue brought in a new PRSI credit to offset the higher tax so that's a non issue.

keepkeyyellow

According to my boss it hasn't been legislated for so they're not entitled to pay it but some businesses are doing it voluntarily. They've never been ones to mess us around anyway so maybe that's the case?

Mrs OBumble

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

According to my boss it hasn't been legislated for so they're not entitled to pay it but some businesses are doing it voluntarily. They've never been ones to mess us around anyway so maybe that's the case?

So you think citizens advice just put the new rates on their website for the craic?

They're messing with you, call workplace relations.

CobraClan

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

According to my boss it hasn't been legislated for so they're not entitled to pay it but some businesses are doing it voluntarily. They've never been ones to mess us around anyway so maybe that's the case?

Sorry to tell you mate but they are messing you about, I wouldn't be causing a fuss about this if my employer only had to raise my wages voluntarily! And if that was the case I'd know about it! I'm going to wait until I see my boss before I take the next step and if he refuses then I will take action!

It looks like your boss would tell you mass before he'd give you a 50 cent raise!

Polo_Mint

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

According to my boss it hasn't been legislated for so they're not entitled to pay it but some businesses are doing it voluntarily. They've never been ones to mess us around anyway so maybe that's the case?

Really Well you inform your "Boss" that the Government aka (Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation) has a different opinion

From the Government site

From 1 January 2016, following Government acceptance of a recommendation of the Low Pay Commission, the national minimum hourly rate of pay for an experienced adult worker is €9.15. -

See more at: https://www.djei.ie/en/FAQs/What-is-the-national-minimum-wage.html#sthash.MBMC9jfR.dpuf

Better still

Email them and CC your manager

Email: info@djei.ie

Cherry Blossom

The yearly budget becomes enacted in the Finance Bill in February. So technically they are right in saying it isn't the law yet but when the Finance Bill comes into effect they will have to back date your increase in pay to January 1st.

ZeroThreat

From reading through this thread, the 'accountant' doesn't seem to be the sharpest tool in the box. Is he an 'accountant' just like Bertie Ahern was an 'accountant' from the mythical school of accountancy perhaps?

Victor

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

According to my boss it hasn't been legislated for

Yes, it was, in October 2015: http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/si/442/made/en/print

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

so they're not entitled to pay it but some businesses are doing it voluntarily.

How could they not be entitled to pay it? 80-90% of employees already earn more.

Have yous seen the 'Horrible Bosses' films? Your boss is a psychopath, an idiot or both.

adrenalinjunkie wrote: »

The yearly budget becomes enacted in the Finance Bill in February. So technically they are right in saying it isn't the law yet but when the Finance Bill comes into effect they will have to back date your increase in pay to January 1st.

This is grossly misleading and fails to understand the issues. They are in no way right or correct.

The budget day resolutions which become formalised in the Finance Act are still binding. These only affect the application of USC. None of these affect minimum wage.

Cherry Blossom

Ah, I didn't realise there was an order. I thought it was just part of the budget as it was announced on budget day.

CobraClan

Just an update! Finally got to see the boss and he gave me the raise no arguments he also back dated it to January 1st! Happy days, thanks to all who replied to this thread!