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Heating options for shed?

  • 11-01-2016 5:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    I'm looking for heating options for a shed/den. Its 18 by 12 feet with insulation and plasterboard in place.
    I have been using an electric fan heater but this seems to be costing a lot of money to run.

    It's about 17 feet away from the house just in case thats important to mention.
    I would greatly appreciate any advice, is having a rad run out to it an option maybe?

    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    Stove?

    Please follow site and charter rules. "Resistance is futile"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭sky6


    A Rad will not work as the heat drop underground between the house and garage would be too much. As suggested, a Stove is probably the easiest option but another Boiler in the Garage is probably your best option. As it's easier to turn on and off as you want to use the Garage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Craic Addict


    Thanks guys, would anyone happen to know the installation costs of the stove versus the gas option?
    Just a rough idea would do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Thanks guys, would anyone happen to know the installation costs of the stove versus the gas option?
    Just a rough idea would do

    Put 2 rads in the shed, highly insulate the pipes, (17 feet isn't a long run).
    Put a stat and timeclock in the shed wired through a motorised valve and the boiler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭moonshadow


    How about an inverter kerosene heater we have one in the house and it's brilliant , would be ideal for your shed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    moonshadow wrote: »
    How about an inverter kerosene heater we have one in the house and it's brilliant , would be ideal for your shed.

    Cheap to run alright but would produce a lot of water vapour which will condense on cold surfaces once dew point is reached, unless you are very careful about ventilation and regular use of the heater I would think. I have a similar size space which is used as a home workshop but I use a small oil filled rad to heat it intermittently, just to take the chill out. It's well insulated and I find it reasonably quick and economical to heat it, but I'm only trying to get it above 10 deg, different scenario for a den I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭sky6


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Put 2 rads in the shed, highly insulate the pipes, (17 feet isn't a long run).
    Put a stat and timeclock in the shed wired through a motorised valve and the boiler.

    Sorry to disagree but here's my experience.

    I tried burying pipes in the ground over a distance of 25 Feet approx. Buried about 2.5 ft deep. and Well insulated pipework. I found the Boiler was running an awful lot longer nearly continuously, and you could see the ground over the pipework actually drying out with Weather changes.
    I'd only try it now if using Calpex or Similar insulated pipe. But that's about 60E a Metre. and maybe to exp for the Ops requirement.

    Just my Experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    sky6 wrote: »
    Sorry to disagree but here's my experience.

    I tried burying pipes in the ground over a distance of 25 Feet approx. Buried about 2.5 ft deep. and Well insulated pipework. I found the Boiler was running an awful lot longer nearly continuously, and you could see the ground over the pipework actually drying out with Weather changes.
    I'd only try it now if using Calpex or Similar insulated pipe. But that's about 60E a Metre. and maybe to exp for the Ops requirement.

    Just my Experience.

    If they're insulated, ducted and sealed then they will be no problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    Hi guys,

    I'm looking for heating options for a shed/den. Its 18 by 12 feet with insulation and plasterboard in place.
    I have been using an electric fan heater but this seems to be costing a lot of money to run.

    It's about 17 feet away from the house just in case thats important to mention.
    I would greatly appreciate any advice, is having a rad run out to it an option maybe?

    Thanks

    Craic Addict,
    I have just done what you want.I put in a sealed system with 2 3ft double rads which I got for free.
    It is being run by an old indoor boiler which I got for free too it just needed a new burner.
    I had several old burners so I made a good one from parts.
    All in all it cost me about €50 to do it.
    I'm sure you could check out adverts or donedeal for rads and the rest.
    regards,
    Redriddick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Redriddick wrote: »
    Craic Addict,
    I have just done what you want.I put in a sealed system with 2 3ft double rads which I got for free.
    It is being run by an old indoor boiler which I got for free too it just needed a new burner.
    I had several old burners so I made a good one from parts.
    All in all it cost me about €50 to do it.
    I'm sure you could check out adverts or donedeal for rads and the rest.
    regards,
    Redriddick

    A secondhand indoor boiler with a rebuilt burner. I hope you got this setup properly and have a carbon monoxide alarm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    sky6 wrote: »
    Sorry to disagree but here's my experience.

    I tried burying pipes in the ground over a distance of 25 Feet approx. Buried about 2.5 ft deep. and Well insulated pipework. I found the Boiler was running an awful lot longer nearly continuously, and you could see the ground over the pipework actually drying out with Weather changes.
    I'd only try it now if using Calpex or Similar insulated pipe. But that's about 60E a Metre. and maybe to exp for the Ops requirement.

    Just my Experience.

    Did you do as Dtp1979 notes with motorised valve, time clot & stat? Might have something to do with boiler running excessively...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    A secondhand indoor boiler with a rebuilt burner. I hope you got this setup properly and have a carbon monoxide alarm

    I did all the work and got a qualified plumber in to inspect it and set up the boiler!!
    Room is vented too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Craic Addict


    Thanks for all the ideas guys, I wouldn't be very handy when it comes to thing like this but it's good to know what my options are.The electric heater seems to be costing a lot for electricity so I'm definitely going to have to change that.
    I was lucky enough to have gotten most of what I needed for the shed for little or nothing so I dont mind spending a few quid for a pro to do the heating.
    I guess that and the plastering are the most expensive jobs left.
    Thanks again.


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