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Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman capture: any downside risks for Penn et al?

  • 10-01-2016 8:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Not that these guys will read the Irish Times
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0110/758973-penn-druglord-interview/
    but
    The interview was brokered by Mexican actress Kate Del Castillo, who herself played a Mexican drug queen in a well-known TV soap.

    Mexican authorities became aware of the meeting between Mr Penn, a Mexican actress and Guzman in October and monitored Mr Penn's movements, helping lead them to a ranch where Guzman was staying, two senior government sources said.


    Perhaps it was a US idea...

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Sean Penn met with a drug lord who is responsible for so many deaths, and apparently El Chapo has a bigger drug business than what Pablo Escobar had.

    Given Penn met a person on the run and responsible for so much suffering, Penn along with the other people involved should face consequences, there are questions, were they going to tell the authorities where the fugitive was and if they hadn't or had no intention then surely they broke a law by keeping concealed the location of a wanted man.

    There should be no free ride for the people involved, if any of us had been in contact with one of the most wanted men in the world, we would be thrown in jail for not telling the authorities where he was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Another Mexican government source said authorities were considering whether to investigate Mr Penn and Ms Del Castillo, possibly for money laundering.

    Per RTE news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭whatawaster81


    Accessory after the fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    It will be fine. If it was Sean Bean I'd be worried for his safety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    El Chapo sounds like something you'd call your dick


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Penn's a dead man walking!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    He'll be OK providing he keeps it quiet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    I just called Susan Sarandon, she's monitoring the situation closely.

    phew...




  • RobertKK wrote: »
    Sean Penn met with a drug lord who is responsible for so many deaths, and apparently El Chapo has a bigger drug business than what Pablo Escobar had.

    Given Penn met a person on the run and responsible for so much suffering, Penn along with the other people involved should face consequences, there are questions, were they going to tell the authorities where the fugitive was and if they hadn't or had no intention then surely they broke a law by keeping concealed the location of a wanted man.

    There should be no free ride for the people involved, if any of us had been in contact with one of the most wanted men in the world, we would be thrown in jail for not telling the authorities where he was.

    (There should be no free ride for the people involved, if any of us had been in contact with one of the most wanted men in the world, we would be thrown in jail for not telling the authorities where he was)

    Yeah thats interesting alright, what country do you live in and i mean in planet earth, also can you tell me what part of history did history forget or are you just living in a free land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    You have to question how the Mexican government didn't know where he was at, but Rolling Stone magazine did. It's also curious that he was captured around the same time this was being announced.

    I would take everything from the 'Mexican Government' with a grain of salt. They're in full CYA mode at the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Season 2 of Narcos right there.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Season 2 of Narcos right there.

    It sounds like too big a stretch.. I'd never believe it. Like Pablo meets up with Michael Douglas for a chat and an interview while escaping la catedral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    It sounds like too big a stretch.. I'd never believe it. Like Pablo meets up with Michael Douglas for a chat and an interview while escaping la catedral.
    I have it on good authority that Blackie and Rick Moranis were pen pals.

    But you didn't hear that from me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    there might be some blowback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    This whole thing is really bizarre. Why would El Chapo, a man who is on the run, agree to meet a famous actor and actress. An actress who due to her previous comments supporting El Chapo could be under surveillance and who would be well known, and an actor who is probably tracked by authorities as well.

    According to Sean Penn:
    It also occurs to me, once again, that I might be under the eyes of Mexican intelligence or the DEA.

    You think?
    But the heat of enforcement and surveillance had become extreme. I even received a credible tip that the DEA had indeed become aware of our journey to Mexico.

    Eh, yeah, Sean Penn has met Hugo Chavez among others. I don't know if they have him under full-time surveillance but it's safe to say they know everytime he gets on a plane, especially to another country. With an actress with links to the cartel. He shouldn't need a credible tip to know that he's been tracked.

    It's bizarre that Penn and the Mexican actress would agree to go, knowing that them going to meet El Chapo together could lead to him been caught. But it's even stranger that El Chapo agreed to meet them. For all he knows Penn could have been sent as a trap to find El Chapo (knowingly or not). Wasn't very smart for any of them. It's also a waste of time given the interview was terrible and was never good enough to be posted in a respectable magazine.
    How has your family life changed from then to now?
    Very good – my children, my brothers, my nephews. We all get along well, very normal. Very good.

    Intriguing stuff. Somehow from this he concludes:
    But perhaps, at least, retrieved a glimpse from the other side, and what is for me an affirmation of the dumb-show of demonization that has demanded such an extraordinary focus of assets toward the capture or killing of any one individual black hat.

    That may or may not be true but nothing in the article could possibly affirm it.

    I'm not criticizing Penn for wanting to meet El Chapo, but in the end all it was a waste of time. If Penn is not prosecuted for withholding information for a fugitive then it's fair to say he was used from the start by the US authorities to find El Chapo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    KungPao wrote: »
    I have it on good authority that Blackie and Rick Moranis were pen pals.

    But you didn't hear that from me.
    Don't you mean Tim 'Home Improvement/The Santa Clause/Buzz Lightyear' Allen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    This whole thing is really bizarre. Why would El Chapo, a man who is on the run, agree to meet a famous actor and actress. An actress who due to her previous comments supporting El Chapo could be under surveillance and who would be well known, and an actor who is probably tracked by authorities as well.

    According to Sean Penn:



    You think?



    Eh, yeah, Sean Penn has met Hugo Chavez among others. I don't know if they have him under full-time surveillance but it's safe to say they know everytime he gets on a plane, especially to another country. With an actress with links to the cartel. He shouldn't need a credible tip to know that he's been tracked.

    It's bizarre that Penn and the Mexican actress would agree to go, knowing that them going to meet El Chapo together could lead to him been caught. But it's even stranger that El Chapo agreed to meet them. For all he knows Penn could have been sent as a trap to find El Chapo (knowingly or not). Wasn't very smart for any of them. It's also a waste of time given the interview was terrible and was never good enough to be posted in a respectable magazine.



    Intriguing stuff. Somehow from this he concludes:

    But perhaps, at least, retrieved a glimpse from the other side, and what is for me an affirmation of the dumb-show of demonization that has demanded such an extraordinary focus of assets toward the capture or killing of any one individual black hat.

    That may or may not be true but nothing in the article could possibly affirm it.

    I'm not criticizing Penn for wanting to meet El Chapo, but in the end all it was a waste of time. If Penn is not prosecuted for withholding information for a fugitive then it's fair to say he was used from the start by the US authorities to find El Chapo.

    god forbid that one of the worlds leading drug barons be demonised. when will the madness ever stop.


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