Buying a new car from dealer and hidden charges

deepriver

This might be covered in another thread...

I went to a well known brand dealer in Dublin 12 today to look at a specific model of a car.

We sat through the mandatory sales pitch even though we had looked at the citroen website and had built the configuration we wanted online and had it priced. At the end of the process the price quoted was 1.5k higher than the same spec build on the website.

The only difference between the website price and the dealer is Delivery, Registration and PDi.

As far as I am concerned I am not paying for delivery and registration is the dealers concern and tax should be included in the price. PDi I dont know what that is, but the total difference is €1,500 from web price.

Anyone have some experience of these charges and is it just a negotiation position? We are getting 4k scrappage as well on the citroen offer.

When I rang up originally and mentioned the website prices the sales guy was all 'dont mind the website'

thanks

MuppetCheck

Go to a different dealer.

Unless one is willing to wave those in the form of a discount you won't find anyone that will exclude them. It's par for the course, I don't know why they aren't compelled to show the on the road price.

twowheelsonly

PDI is a Pre Delivery Inspection

It's quite comprehensive but I don't see why it isn't worked into the price in the first place.

magentis

twowheelsonly wrote:

It's quite comprehensive but I don't see why it isn't worked into the price in the first place.

Not so sure about that.I bought a new rover 200 16 years ago and it had a seized wheel bearing they missed!

magentis

deepriver wrote:

As far as I am concerned I am not paying for delivery and registration is the dealers concern and tax should be included in the price. PDi I dont know what that is, but the total difference is €1,500 from web price.

I would doubt there will be much room to get that €1500 reduced if you are getting a 4k scrapper allowance.I think the dealer part funds this.What car are you trading?

Padraig Mor

I'm guessing the 1500 comprises delivery and metallic paint? As for shopping around - would it be naughty of me to recall Citroën Ireland being caught price fixing these charges between dealers?!

deepriver

Yea fair enough. The only difference on the price is the extra 1,500 quoted by the dealer which includes registration, delivery to the dealership and PDI.

anyone idea of what a dealer might typically charge for pdi/reg/delivery?

twowheelsonly

magentis wrote: »

Not so sure about that.I bought a new rover 200 16 years ago and it had a seized wheel bearing they missed!

Lol... I'd say with new cars the inspection is quite cursory as I can't imagine that they'd be expecting too many mechanical problems.

Link to the Toyota inspection sheet - AFAIK it's the same for new and secondhand cars. With secondhand I'd imagine that most mechanics would give the wheels/brakes/engine a decent going over

http://dealers.gloveboxcms.com/assets/files/uploads/47995/pdi.png

NIMAN

Additional charges on car adverts has always been my pet hate.

Why are they allowed to quote 'prices from €x' when a buyer can't avoid these charges? Surely the advert should read 'prices from €x+charges'?

Charles Babbage

PDi is bollix, they are required to ensure the vehicle is as described when they sell it. If you buy a computer or a fridge there is no PDi.

vistaphotos

NIMAN wrote: »

Why are they allowed to quote 'prices from €x' when a buyer can't avoid these charges? Surely the advert should read 'prices from €x+charges'?

Ranks up there with broadband providers being allowed to use the word "unlimited" when the "fair use policy" is really a limit!

Price of the car as advertised is never available to the buyer at that price unless someone eats the delivery charges.

One dealer came back to me with a price where his delivery etc. was far more than everybody else. I politely let him know that he wasn't in the game because of this & he tried to justify the variation because of distance from the point of entry into the country etc. I've also seen differences in metallic paint costs, luckily many of the online configurators now call this out so you can tell if it's being padded.

You always have the option to email dealers asking them to quote the on-the-road-price (includes all charges) for a non-metallic model & ask the price they'd charge for metallic.

colm_mcm

Your issue - if any - is with the distributor though.
Are you sure the €1500 didn't include metallic paint too? Metallic isn't usually included in the RRP.