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Will the Irish Guards play GAA?

  • 09-01-2016 4:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭


    Granuaile Hurling Club, based in Harrow, North London, sent notification to the London County Board of their proposal to ‘rescind’ last September’s historic decision to allow a team from the Irish Guards compete in the junior championship.
    - from the Irish Examiner today.

    It seems Croke Park's writ and the spirit of the GFA could get short shrift in London. What do you think?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Come on dudes. Put on your thinking caps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    They should be allowed to play.Simple as that.I'd let ISIS field a team if they wanted to.

    Idiotic that anyone would oppose a team the right to play GAA, and although the GAA don't like to get involved in internal county board matters they should break with that idea and override any decision and insist that they are allowed to play.

    If they're stopped it will be extremely embarassing for the GAA and the clubs should put any of their pettiness aside for the better good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Did they give a reason for changing their mind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Did they give a reason for changing their mind?

    When asked by the Irish Examiner to explain their position, Granuaile chairman Donal Corbett said: “We’re affiliated to the London County Committee and perform our business within that structure. We will disclose everything to the London County Commitee.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 kickdaball


    Can fully understand Donal corbett`s response, would`nt look good washin yer clothes in public, has they Granuaile have no good reason only outdated & bigotted reason`s, Hopefully Croke park will overrule & sense will prevail


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    They should be allowed to play.Simple as that.I'd let ISIS field a team if they wanted to.

    Idiotic that anyone would oppose a team the right to play GAA, and although the GAA don't like to get involved in internal county board matters they should break with that idea and override any decision and insist that they are allowed to play.

    If they're stopped it will be extremely embarassing for the GAA and the clubs should put any of their pettiness aside for the better good.

    Bomber Khalid has a mighty left foot.

    Clubs putting their "pettiness aside"? Well I never. Have you ever had the luxury of sitting in on a County Board meeting?

    Don't see why the London County Board should be dictated to. Will any of the London clubs potentially loose players? Surely, starting up the London Guards team won't need to consist only of London Guards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,763 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    They should be allowed to play.Simple as that.I'd let ISIS field a team if they wanted to.

    "A nasty altercation in the full forward line there Ger, nearly took his head off with that one"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    "A nasty altercation in the full forward line there Ger, nearly took his head off with that one"

    Scimitar or semtex?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Bomber Khalid has a mighty left foot.

    Clubs putting their "pettiness aside"? Well I never. Have you ever had the luxury of sitting in on a County Board meeting?

    Don't see why the London County Board should be dictated to. Will any of the London clubs potentially loose players? Surely, starting up the London Guards team won't need to consist only of London Guards?

    If it was OK a few months ago to let them in why have things changed.

    They really shouldn't be allowed to vote again on this.

    Although I've never been to one I'm well aware that county board meetings are filled with pettiness but just because it happens doesn't mean it should be accepted practice across the GAA.

    This is an extremely bad PR move for the GAA and the GAA who are crap at this sort of thing really need to realise how important it is to look good to the media.If they are not let in it will be seen as yet another reason why the GAA are backward and be used by the media and others as a stick to beat them with.

    The GAA need to be more dictatorial in their approach as it might actually result in some progress being made rather than stifling democracy which hold the association back over and over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,937 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    before the last few posts were written still harping on about a meeting to ban the team being bad PR etc etc, if you had read the news from yesterday morning you'd know that the London board has cancelled any vote on the matter to allow the central authorities to deal with the matter first.
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/croker-to-intervene-in-debate-over-british-army-teams-participation-in-london-championship-34355457.html

    To be honest its no harm that this is now being dealt with centrally, as the practicality of a british army team fielding week in week out against London GAA teams with Northern Ireland born republicans was never going to work. Foolhardly Sinn Feiners picking fights on the field against against trained professional killers, indeed, sure what could go wrong ????

    With the Army team being potentially sent abroad for 6month stints, its also probably more practical to have them in one off Police and military competitions than regular leagues.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    If it was OK a few months ago to let them in why have things changed.

    They really shouldn't be allowed to vote again on this.

    Although I've never been to one I'm well aware that county board meetings are filled with pettiness but just because it happens doesn't mean it should be accepted practice across the GAA.

    This is an extremely bad PR move for the GAA and the GAA who are crap at this sort of thing really need to realise how important it is to look good to the media.If they are not let in it will be seen as yet another reason why the GAA are backward and be used by the media and others as a stick to beat them with.

    The GAA need to be more dictatorial in their approach as it might actually result in some progress being made rather than stifling democracy which hold the association back over and over again.


    The development, success and maintenance of the GAA has and always will be on the shoulders of grass root volunteers and not paid suits in GHQ. It is a voluntary group. I do not believe that the HQ can dictate. After all, considering how they treated London GAA with rules on training and being banned to play challenge matches the year that they got to the Connacht Final...... I don't think GHQ are in a position to dictate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    The development, success and maintenance of the GAA has and always will be on the shoulders of grass root volunteers and not paid suits in GHQ. It is a voluntary group. I do not believe that the HQ can dictate. After all, considering how they treated London GAA with rules on training and being banned to play challenge matches the year that they got to the Connacht Final...... I don't think GHQ are in a position to dictate.


    Perhaps. But in my opinion they should be able to dictate when it comes to matters that will reflect badly on the GAA and regardless of what anyone says if the Irish guards are not allowed to field a team it will reflect badly on the GAA as a whole.It doesn't matter whether the GAA is voluntary they dictate the rules of the games to people and the players have to follow so why should a situation like this be any different.

    The GAA is too democratic overall and it has held the association back over the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    If the Irish army are allowed play, I don't see why the Brits cannot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Anyone know how this panned out?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    The matter was to be discussed at new London chairman John Lacey’s first county board meeting before a Croke Park intervention directed the proposal not to be put to the city’s clubs. Within days, Croke Park released a statement saying GAA rules would not allow for the rescindment of a decision to approve the club’s affiliation - embarassing for Lacey as it was his club that appealed letting them in.

    They have changed their colours and are now called Naomh Padraig playing junior football - colours were an issue as they were the same as Fulham Irish so they have changed to white with maroon sponsored by youririshshop. Everyone still knows them in London as the Guards

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce3gtIrUIAAeC3m.jpg:large


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    There was a time when I'd have been against British soldiers or RUC playing gaelic given what they had done to GAA clubs and players, including killings in the north.

    Now, if it is good enough for Shinners to dress up in monkeys suits and genuflect to queen and run north for them, there are little grounds for not letting their soldiers play football and hurling!

    A lot of hypocrisy I have found when it comes to this issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    To be honest its no harm that this is now being dealt with centrally, as the practicality of a british army team fielding week in week out against London GAA teams with Northern Ireland born republicans was never going to work. Foolhardly Sinn Feiners picking fights on the field against against trained professional killers, indeed, sure what could go wrong ????

    Or members of the Garda Siochana fielding against trained amateur killers. Is this another case of equality of esteem for us but not for them?
    With the Army team being potentially sent abroad for 6month stints, its also probably more practical to have them in one off Police and military competitions than regular leagues.

    Would one apply the same rule here to Irish Army and navy personnel, trawlermen etc.?


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