Passenger who told ticket inspector to f**k off - gets two months suspended sentence

Hollister11

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/passenger-told-ticket-inspector-to-fk-off-34343318.html

AN inspector for Irish Rail was told to "f**k off" after he asked to see a young man's ticket, a court heard.

When he was told that gardai had been called, he replied "f**k the gardai, I won't be waiting for gardai".

Thargor

So did the Irish Rail staff physically detain him then? I always wondered how that actually works in practice...

coylemj

Suspending a two-month sentence for two years, Judge Dempsey said Blake's "sob story" won't work with him again.

Great.

Hang on, he is 21 and has 19 previous convictions including four for breach of the peace so he's basically a yob - how many other judges have given him that warning?

LXFlyer

Thargor wrote: »

So did the Irish Rail staff physically detain him then? I always wondered how that actually works in practice...

They are perfectly entitled to do so under CIE Bye Laws.

GM228

lxflyer wrote: »

They are perfectly entitled to do so under CIE Bye Laws.

And the Railway Safety Act also gives them the power of arrest!

The_Valeyard

GM228 wrote: »

And the Railway Safety Act also gives them the power of arrest!

On what grounds?

GM228

The_Valeyard wrote: »

On what grounds?

Any of the following under Section 129 of The Railway Safety Act.

If an authorised officer reasonably suspects that a person—

(a) is contravening or has contravened or is failing or has failed to comply with a provision of bye-laws made under section 22 of this Act which is stated in the bye-laws to be a penal provision,

(b) is committing or has committed an offence under section 59(1) of this Act, section 25 of the Transport (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1971 , or section 118 or 132 of the Railway Safety Act 2005,

(c) is assaulting or has assaulted or is causing or has caused deliberate harm to another on railway property,

(d) is causing or has caused wanton or deliberate damage to railway property,

(e) is obstructing or has obstructed or is impeding or has impeded an authorised officer in the exercise of his or her duties under this section or any provision of bye-laws made under section 22 of this Act which is stated in the bye-laws to be a penal provision,

(f) on any railway property is intoxicated or is committing or has committed an offence under section 15 of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1977 , or

(g) if requested by an authorised officer to cease such contravention or action or to so comply, fails to comply with the request,

he or she may—

(i) using such reasonable force as the circumstances require, remove or escort the person from the railway property or any part of it,

(ii) in circumstances where the officer considers it to be justified, arrest the person without warrant, or

(iii) require the person to give his or her name and address and, if the person fails or refuses to do so or gives a name that the authorised officer reasonably suspects is false or misleading may arrest that person without warrant,

Carawaystick

What was the man convicted of?
Was it any of the laws allowing IÉ staff arrest him?

Rakish Paddy

Passenger who told ticket inspector to f**k off - gets two months suspended sentence away without any punishment, despite a known track record of breaching the peace.