Barnfind ?

kyote00

"Genuine barnfind, been in storage near 20 years." but 75-LH-xxxx

http://www.adverts.ie/vehicles/mk2-escort-1600-ghia-genuine-barnfind-hasn-t-even-been-washed-since-coming-out-of-storage/9578948

sogood

kyote00 wrote: »

"Genuine barnfind, been in storage near 20 years." but 75-LH-xxxx

http://www.adverts.ie/vehicles/mk2-escort-1600-ghia-genuine-barnfind-hasn-t-even-been-washed-since-coming-out-of-storage/9578948

What am I missing? 1975 car driven for 20 years until 1995, then parked up for the last 20 years until 2015. At least that's how the maths work out.

Pat Dunne

kyote00 wrote: »

"Genuine barnfind, been in storage near 20 years." but 75-LH-xxxx

http://www.adverts.ie/vehicles/mk2-escort-1600-ghia-genuine-barnfind-hasn-t-even-been-washed-since-coming-out-of-storage/9578948

Did a search and the reg comes up as an Orange, Escort.

kev1.3s

I wouldn't care what he's selling or how much for after reading the description and the comments! He doesn't seem to be the kind of person I'd like to deal with.

kyote00

If its an Irish car from the period then why would it have 75-LH reg ?

Say it comes with original brown log book

sogood wrote: »

What am I missing? 1975 car driven for 20 years until 1995, then parked up for the last 20 years until 2015. At least that's how the maths work out.

hi5

All cars got brown log books up until fairly recently, imports and all.

kyote00

My point is that it would not have got a reg of 75-LH-xxxx in 1975 (as that style was only introduced in 1987)

So, perhaps it has been re-registered -- but why would you change a nice original Irish reg to that

I would say its a UK import - not an Irish car

Not issues with that, other than it should say it in ad.....

savagethegoat

hi5 wrote: »

All cars got brown log books up until fairly recently, imports and all.

I've been importing classic fords since about 1998 and I never got a brown log book . The first new car I bought in Ireland was in 1989 and that didn't get one either.

swarlb

savagethegoat wrote: »

I've been importing classic fords since about 1998 and I never got a brown log book . The first new car I bought in Ireland was in 1989 and that didn't get one either.

This escort was imported in 1996... so it's either been sitting in the 'barn' for the past twenty years, or the seller cannot count.
I imported a car in 1986, and it was issued with a brown log book. The reg was ZS xxxx which I think was the last 'old type' numbers used before they came up with ZV, and Year and County from 1987.
I had an 1988 car, which was issued with a brown log book from new, so maybe there was a crossover period where they gave both types.

savagethegoat

swarlb wrote: »

This escort was imported in 1996... so it's either been sitting in the 'barn' for the past twenty years, or the seller cannot count.
I imported a car in 1986, and it was issued with a brown log book. The reg was ZS xxxx which I think was the last 'old type' numbers used before they came up with ZV, and Year and County from 1987.
I had an 1988 car, which was issued with a brown log book from new, so maybe there was a crossover period where they gave both types.

not recently then.

swarlb

savagethegoat wrote: »

not recently then.

As you get older, and brain cells decay, time spans of 100 years become.. 'a few decades ago'.... while decades transform into 'it seemed like yesterday'. With younger people it works the opposite... suddenly a car from the 2000's is a 'classic', destined to be put in storage till the mid 21st century, so they can avail of 'cheap tax'.

ianobrien

I had an Citroen AX that was '88, imported in '89 (or '90 I think) and it got a brown log book.

Anyway, back to the car. It's got an early steering wheel, post '78 grill and the 1.6 badge was fitted to the early ones on the bootlid is missing. I reckon both the boot and grill were changed. It is an early one I reckon as it has the separate starter solenoid and what looks like small strut tops.

The sagging front seats are common. My one (with 60k) has the same sagging starting to form on the front right corner of the drivers seat.

If I had both the money and time, I'd have it bought and build it as an Endurance/Lanes rally car. Take off that stupid spoiler, change the rusty back doors, usual safety stuff inside, loose most of the interior, Group 1 suspension, sump guards, Capri brakes & limo in the back.

Max Headroom

It'll probably end up as another Cobra kit-car.......pricy for a log book though...;):p

Silvera

Brown log books were issued until 1993 - hence why you dont use RF200 forms for vehicles registered after 1993 (i.e. you use the rear of the reg cert when changing ownership, address, etc).

savagethegoat

Silvera wrote: »

Brown log books were issued until 1993 - hence why you dont use RF200 forms for vehicles registered after 1993 (i.e. you use the rear of the reg cert when changing ownership, address, etc).

That can't be right, I had cars registered in 89 and 92 and they had the old paper books, the ones you use the rear for to change details, not the brown card ones. I think you are maybe thinking of them? Maybe it depended on where you were?

kev1.3s

savagethegoat wrote: »

That can't be right, I had cars registered in 89 and 92 and they had the old paper books, the ones you use the rear for to change details, not the brown card ones. I think you are maybe thinking of them? Maybe it depended on where you were?

My first car was a 1990 Renault 19 and it had a brown book in Wexford.

liam7831

I wonder is he selling the 3 Wheeler in the background?

C.K Dexter Haven

liam7831 wrote: »

I wonder is he selling the 3 Wheeler in the background?

Why don't you ask him?:p

carchaeologist

Being a <500 number that's a post 1992 registration, probably registered in 1993.
Brown books were discontinued for newly registered cars in that year too.

Yet another example of how the rampant ringing going on in the country is making everyone suspicious of anything out of the ordinary now.

savagethegoat

But I had newly registered cars in 89 and 92 and neither had brown books. Both had the previous paper document. There mnust have been both systems operating at the time then, if what you say is right? Depending on the County pehaps. I also registered an 82 car in 1987 and that didn't have a brown book either.

power pants

Silvera wrote: »

Brown log books were issued until 1993 - hence why you dont use RF200 forms for vehicles registered after 1993 (i.e. you use the rear of the reg cert when changing ownership, address, etc).

have a 91 and its brown book, as poster says, changed in 93/94

power pants

id too, like to know this

alias no.9

I've had 90G and 92DL cars with brown logbooks which is consistent with the 1993 changeover mentioned. Perhaps Dublin changed first or there was a phased rollover?

nmacc

I imported an 84 to Meath in 91 and received the paper cert, not the brown log book. It may indeed have varied by county, unless imports were treated differently?

The Big Red Fella

i have 1980 & 1993 imports both got the paper certs & i have 2 cars with lost taxbooks & i applied & got new brown books for both??
(1980 imported in 1992 & the 1993 imported in 2007)

savagethegoat

power pants wrote: »

have a 91 and its brown book, as poster says, changed in 93/94

that proves nothing...I had the opposite experience.

No doubt the Brown Books stopped being issued in 93 in some counties, but it seems that other counties stopped using them much earlier...1987 in my experience, perhaps earlier. I think they may have started to come in in that year with the new registration number series.

Silvera

savagethegoat wrote: »

That can't be right, I had cars registered in 89 and 92 and they had the old paper books, the ones you use the rear for to change details, not the brown card ones. I think you are maybe thinking of them? Maybe it depended on where you were?

http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/MotorTax/ChangeofOwnership/

savagethegoat

I can't help that, I have never had a car , other than a classic, that had a brown taxbook. Never. I had a 1990 Sierra too in addition to those listed before.

Tigger

savagethegoat wrote: »

I've been importing classic fords since about 1998 and I never got a brown log book . The first new car I bought in Ireland was in 1989 and that didn't get one either.

I imported a 89 in 93 and I got the current cert
No brown book in 93

power pants

savagethegoat wrote: »

that proves nothing...I had the opposite experience.

No doubt the Brown Books stopped being issued in 93 in some counties, but it seems that other counties stopped using them much earlier...1987 in my experience, perhaps earlier. I think they may have started to come in in that year with the new registration number series.

it proves something

Car99

Typical classic forum thread .