3rd Jan

Francie Barrett

The filth is at it again in the 2:50.

Gavin "shels"

Martins?

Francie Barrett

xlogo wrote: »

What? Have I missed something?

Were you here for Galway last year?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96436304&postcount=304

Is the horse trying or is it not? Who the **** knows. All I know is that there is serious dodgy sh1te going on for that horse to be a 13/8 shot.

sdoc13

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The filth is at it again in the 2:50.

Jack Slade fancied by connections in this. Have had a bet at 5s.

hurleronditch

What are the chances he's backed into evens or better in the morning, then a big drift before the off and he finishes nowhere. Post race there's either a) a cough, b) slightly lame, or c) a shoe lost in running

Francie Barrett

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Were you here for Galway last year?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96436304&postcount=304

Is the horse trying or is it not? Who the **** knows. All I know is that there is serious dodgy sh1te going on for that horse to be a 13/8 shot.

6/4 shot now.

Probably even dough at the off.

Francie Barrett

hurleronditch wrote: »

What are the chances he's backed into evens or better in the morning, then a big drift before the off and he finishes nowhere. Post race there's either a) a cough, b) slightly lame, or c) a shoe lost in running

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=98181158&postcount=4146

I posted that two weeks ago. The two horses I was tipped were Blair Perrone (tipped on here by me) and Tudor City which goes tomorrow. Like I said - who the fcuk knows whether the handbrake is actually off, or whether it's just a bookie benefit.

hurleronditch

Whilst that dynamic is ugly and makes things a nightmare for ordinary racing fans, trying to look through the card for Naas tomorrow is a different kind of joke. A treble on ruby and willie in the first 3 races would pay you back just shy of 38 euro off a tenner. You'd nearly be as well of ignoring them and just analysing the betting without markets

Kauto

Francie Barrett wrote: »

6/4 shot now.

Probably even dough at the off.

You would be very naive to think this will be off a yard tomorrow. It's not their style to go for it first time in a handicap and a horse always needs a sighter in one.
On top of that there was an enquiry into the running of Thai horse in Limerick were it was stated that the horse didn't stay 2m and would need good ground to perform at its best etc etc. they would be making a rod for their own back if this is off tomorrow.
I suggest you lay it now and keep on laying. Easy money.

Kauto

hurleronditch wrote: »

Whilst that dynamic is ugly and makes things a nightmare for ordinary racing fans, trying to look through the card for Naas tomorrow is a different kind of joke. A treble on ruby and willie in the first 3 races would pay you back just shy of 38 euro off a tenner. You'd nearly be as well of ignoring them and just analysing the betting without markets

Willie has the novices sewn up! He has so many that could go for the races that if you are not going to back one of his you may as well stay out of it.

Francie Barrett

Kauto wrote: »

It's not their style to go for it first time in a handicap

Not sure if you're being smart - but Tudor City won the first time off a handicap mark on the flat. This yard are well capable of sending out winners for the first time in a handicap.

Peintre Celebre

Lads am I missing something very obvious or being stupid here. Did Marakoush win his maiden at Punchestown in heavy ground in 5 minutes 1 from the front

BumperD

Soft, 22 secs slower than standard.

Peintre Celebre

Nearly 30 seconds quicker than the gr.1 novice over the same course and distance at two Punchestown festivals in recent years. 2 seconds slower than Reve de Sivola's win on good That was very impressive

posturingpat

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Lads am I missing something very obvious or being stupid here. Did Marakoush win his maiden at Punchestown in heavy ground in 5 minutes 1 from the front

They adore him down at the Fleming yard and will be going in here with no fear but Bellshill's a superstar in the making i think. Forecast could be the order of the day.

Kauto

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Not sure if you're being smart - but Tudor City won the first time off a handicap mark on the flat. This yard are well capable of sending out winners for the first time in a handicap.

He certainly did not. He had two spins in handicaps before he won in Galway.

You can count on one hand the amount of handicap debutants that win in Ireland every year!
This horse won't be off a yard. Will be laying it to lose a 4k.

Tony is well capable of it but rarely if ever does it. there's a reason most get a spin in a handicap!!

Kauto

posturingpat wrote: »

They adore him down at the Fleming yard and will be going in here with no fear but Bellshill's a superstar in the making i think. Forecast could be the order of the day.

Forget Flemings stable for a while. He had everything ready to run for its life from Aug/sep onwards and his horses are starting to disapoint now as a result.

posturingpat

They have aimed a few at the xmas/new year period,this boy being 1.

Taff

Funny clip from yesterday's Sandown tv coverage - link takes you to the tweet so you can play the short vid

https://twitter.com/CheltenhamTips/status/683411499524689920

BumperD

Kauto wrote: »

Forget Flemings stable for a while. He had everything ready to run for its life from Aug/sep onwards and his horses are starting to disapoint now as a result.

Spoke well about the first there on ATR and it romped home

Peintre Celebre

I've backed Marakoush at 13.5. Trying to get a price on w/o Shaneshill

BumperD

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Nearly 30 seconds quicker than the gr.1 novice over the same course and distance at two Punchestown festivals in recent years. 2 seconds slower than Reve de Sivola's win on good That was very impressive

I read the rp result and it says slow by 22 seconds. I am reading that wrong.
Comparison above is very good. Might make it a good race today. Barry Connell was just on ATR and tipped up his first winner. He has a few good ones out today ( not that I am backing any).

ON ZEE BRIDLE

I'm told Boher Call wins 3.20 11/4

Kovu

Plumpton abandoned?

That track was like a mire in the last race.

chipsdave

With all due respects to You Francie Barret there does not seem to be anything unduly untoward about the market here , the layers have put in the jolly short purely because of The Trainers reputation with horse seemingly on a lowly handicap mark , 6-4 initially became 2-1 , then trimmed a bit mainly due to 5-1 NR plus 2 others at 20-1 , and perhaps some money , looks a lay esp if You can get him in short !

BumperD

Francie Barrett wrote: »

6/4 shot now.

Probably even dough at the off.

Have been watching the betting on this one. He's an uneasy fav, interesting to see how he fares

Kauto

Easy money this laying game!!

Howjoe1

Kauto wrote: »

Easy money this laying game!!

Radio commentary said it would have won but for a mistake at the last...sounds more lucky than easy.

But i didn't see the race so maybe commentator wrong

BumperD

Tudor City was definitely going for it today without a doubt. Made a horlicks of the last which probably cost him. I didn't have a cent on him btw.

Gamebred

Good to see them do their money on Tudor City couldnt happen to a more rancid stable,same with White Arm the other day.

posturingpat

The other animal won easier than the gap suggests i think, Jockey never threw the kitchen sink at him,always confident he'd hold off Tudor city

jj mac

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

I'm told Boher Call wins 3.20 11/4

Cheers. Battled on well.

tayto lover

Gamebred wrote: »

Good to see them do their money on Tudor City couldnt happen to a more rancid stable,same with White Arm the other day.

Madden gave White Arm a poor ride imo.

petes

jj mac wrote: »

Cheers. Battled on well.

Cheers, had him in a double with thello @sp) saw the favour a nr too so hopped on

BumperD

Nice double for Alan Fleming. His horses are in flying form

Kauto

tayto lover wrote: »

Madden gave White Arm a poor ride imo.

Was waiting 2 years for White Arm. They thought he had so much in hand he rode it 10 wide all the way. Wil be rated 130+ by seasons end.
Tudor was well beaten. Winner won far easier than winning margin suggested.

tayto lover

Kauto wrote: »

Was waiting 2 years for White Arm. They thought he had so much in hand he rode it 10 wide all the way. Wil be rated 130+ by seasons end.
Tudor was well beaten. Winner won far easier than winning margin suggested.

Pushed the horse in far too close to the last fence and lost all his rhythm too.
The horse didn't need his "help" at that stage.

Straffan1979

BumperD wrote: »

Tudor City was definitely going for it today without a doubt. Made a horlicks of the last which probably cost him. I didn't have a cent on him btw.

I passed an ashen faced Tony in the bar at Naas after the race- safe to say he was trying today alright

fuzzydunlop85

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

I'm told Boher Call wins 3.20 11/4

Cheers on Zee bridle that's two winners you've given the last couple of days fair play!