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Civil Ceremony on Saturday

  • 27-12-2015 3:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi

    New to this wedding planning.
    We want to get married on a Saturday. I noticed there aren't many humanists in Ireland. I've heard that civil sercants may work on Saturdays now. Does anyone know will civil servants perform a civil ceremony on a Saturday?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    yep thet would you just have to find one free


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭Pembily


    Milly33 wrote: »
    yep thet would you just have to find one free
    Great thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    There is a list online, think maybe on the HSE website of all the registars. There are lots of options really for Sat. Celtric Priest, Druid, Wicca whatever your into...

    Only thing is you pay a lot for these, if lets say ye werent too into the cermeoney side of things ye could get married the friday in the registry office ( the fee of €200) will cover this, and then on the Saturday have a close friend or someone like tis to preform the ceremoney on the Sat for ye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭Pembily


    Milly33 wrote: »
    There is a list online, think maybe on the HSE website of all the registars. There are lots of options really for Sat. Celtric Priest, Druid, Wicca whatever your into...

    Only thing is you pay a lot for these, if lets say ye werent too into the cermeoney side of things ye could get married the friday in the registry office ( the fee of €200) will cover this, and then on the Saturday have a close friend or someone like tis to preform the ceremoney on the Sat for ye

    We don't want any religion and on the HSE list it's secular, religion and humanist. I saw humanists charge €450 around. Still less than a church. Will it cost more to have a HSE person on a Saturday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    I got lost with all the HSE things..

    Right so lets say you got a civil servant from the HSE or the registry office to do the wedding
    You must pay your Fee of €200 this includes the offer of getting married in the registry office, If ye wanted to have the ceremoney (i know my spelling is bad sorry :) ) elsewhere outside the office ye pay another fee for them to travel nothing too major, we paid €250 me thinks or €220 for them to travel to our venue.

    The only thing is they dont work weekends so that option is out for ye if ye want to have it on the Saturday.

    Next on your list then is your humanist, celtic priest, all others except priests or church.. They do work weekends, i would say book sooner rather than later as they book up very fast. For this again you will have to pay your €200 to the HSE and then separetly you will have to pay your humanist this ranges most prices are around the €300 - €600 mark...Think it is crazy myself what they charge but tis all up to ye....

    Or then you can have the option of paying your €200 fee which ye have to pay non the less to the HSE and go in the day or a few days before or after the wedding and sign the papers in the registry office, then ask someone to say a few words on the day itself for you.....


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  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,957 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Can a civil servant do a "nixer" for want of a better word? Or are they only allowed to do the ceremonies as part of their job in the HSE registry office?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    No dont think they can, as it all has to be offical they only way they could do it, is for ye to go in the day before to the registry office and then like maybe if they were free on the Saturday they could do the ceremoney for free for ye..Sure they would be caught rotten if they done it, mind that doesnt stop the politicians haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭Pembily


    Toots wrote: »
    Can a civil servant do a "nixer" for want of a better word? Or are they only allowed to do the ceremonies as part of their job in the HSE registry office?
    Exactly what my dad asked ;)

    So civil servants won't perform a wedding as part of the HSE on a Saturday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Nope, mad really but hopefully this will be another thing to change


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fannymagee


    Pembily wrote: »
    Hi

    New to this wedding planning.
    We want to get married on a Saturday. I noticed there aren't many humanists in Ireland. I've heard that civil sercants may work on Saturdays now. Does anyone know will civil servants perform a civil ceremony on a Saturday?

    Thanks

    When is your date?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭Pembily


    Milly33 wrote: »
    Nope, mad really but hopefully this will be another thing to change
    Thanks. Unfortunately that's what I thought. It really should change.

    fannymagee wrote: »
    When is your date?
    Looking at November 2016! Thought the venue would be the main issue not the celebrant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,290 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Pembily wrote: »
    Thanks. Unfortunately that's what I thought. It really should change.

    Why? All the HSE registrars are really doing is the legal paperwork, with little ceremonial aspects to it.

    You can easily enough do that with them during the week, and then have a friend (or even a hired actor or MC) do whatever ceremonial stuff you want at the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭Pembily


    Why? All the HSE registrars are really doing is the legal paperwork, with little ceremonial aspects to it.

    You can easily enough do that with them during the week, and then have a friend (or even a hired actor or MC) do whatever ceremonial stuff you want at the weekend.
    Ideally I'd like it all in the one day but that may be an option. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sinead81


    I am finding it hard to get a humanist for my ceremony.... and we don't want a religious ceremony as we are 'on paper' two different religions so eeeeek help! any suggestions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭Pembily


    I'm now looking at interfaith celebrants. Check interfaith.ie or interfaith.org. They support all religions and none, unlike humanists who are just no religion.

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    If you don't want any religion, humanists are the way to go. They can be as spiritual or non spiritual as you like.

    I got married before they were legalised, so had the civil ceremony on the fri lunch time with just immediate family and then humanist ceremony on the Saturday.

    The humanist fee is a little high but honestly we found they do loads of prep work with you. They met us twice to plan, had loads of ideas and we were really comfortable with him.
    The civil servant handed us a page with the basic ceremony and said fill in the blanks. Then asked for our final ceremony to be emailed to them. We turned up on the day and they couldn't find our ceremony. Thankfully it was in my emails on my phone. So the lady just winged it and got half it wrong and had no idea what we wanted. Very unprofessional and I certainly wouldn't advise anyone hiring them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sinead81


    Pembily wrote: »
    I'm now looking at interfaith celebrants. Check interfaith.ie or interfaith.org. They support all religions and none, unlike humanists who are just no religion.

    Best of luck.

    Just googling them now, thanks!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sinead81


    If you don't want any religion, humanists are the way to go. They can be as spiritual or non spiritual as you like.

    I got married before they were legalised, so had the civil ceremony on the fri lunch time with just immediate family and then humanist ceremony on the Saturday.

    The humanist fee is a little high but honestly we found they do loads of prep work with you. They met us twice to plan, had loads of ideas and we were really comfortable with him.
    The civil servant handed us a page with the basic ceremony and said fill in the blanks. Then asked for our final ceremony to be emailed to them. We turned up on the day and they couldn't find our ceremony. Thankfully it was in my emails on my phone. So the lady just winged it and got half it wrong and had no idea what we wanted. Very unprofessional and I certainly wouldn't advise anyone hiring them!

    Wow so unprofessional of the hse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fannymagee


    If you don't want any religion, humanists are the way to go. They can be as spiritual or non spiritual as you like.
    !

    It's worth checking that very clearly with your celebrant, because Humanist ceremonies are usually not spiritual- that's one of the fundamental aspects of Humanism. If you look at the Wedding FAQ page on their website, they clarify that if you have a belief in a God or the supernatural you'd be better served by a different organisation ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Our celebrant is a member of a Christian Church but he is very flexible as to how much or how little religion we want in the ceremony, he gave us some ideas of different readings and some celtic type things we could do. So do have a look around on the list of registrars.

    My local hse only do weddings part time on Thursday and Fridays, and were booked up around the time we wanted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sinead81


    Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a spiritualist and a humanist? I have two provisionally held but I can't seem to get my head around what the difference is!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Spititualists are spiritual. They believe in more "supernatural" phenomena, including the psychic realm. Many of the solemnisers also have careers in alternative healing, psychic readings, etc. They will include a non-denominational spiritual element in the ceremony if you want, including "connecting" with dead people via the spirit world at your ceremony.

    Humanists believe that morality and kindness and compassion and all of that comes from within, not from a set of religious rules. There is no spiritual element at all and they won't include one (dori dormer may have been getting confused between spiritualists and humanists). The ceremony can be as traditional or alternative as you like, and they're happy to include things like ring warming or sand ceremonies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sinead81


    Awh thank you so much Faith for getting back to me so soon. So I think I prefer the humanist element if I am honest!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    There is also the Unitarian Church in Dublin and Cork, but I'm not sure what's involved with them, exactly.

    I personally wouldn't go near a Spiritualist (especially in light of Tom Colton's frauds) but I'm a skeptic through and through :). Many people here have had lovely Spiritualist ceremonies.

    We had a Humanist one, and it was very traditional. We left out any mention of god, but still had the "to have and to hold" vows because we chose to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sinead81


    I think it is going to be a humanist ceremony!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sinead81


    We are having our first meeting with our humanist next week. Can anyone give us any tips on what to ask or what to look out for?

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    We had a humanist wedding. Ask for sample ceremonies and readings at the meeting. We had a long-ish meeting first and got a feel for whether we clicked with the celebrant and got some samples of what he'd done before. Then we decided to go with him and had another meeting where we discussed the ceremony. There was a lot of back and forth emailing about the ceremony itself as well.


  • Moderators Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭ChewChew


    We have a humanist booked for our wedding in 2017. She's amazing and she also did our naming ceremony for our daughter in August gone. Everyone loved her and she had such a gentle presence about her. She gave us samples and a wording template so we can alter that as necessary. We also have her booked for a Saturday wedding :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Hey ChewChew could you share who you are using for your Humanist wedding? Feel free to PM me if necessary.


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