Is a brand new Hyundai my best option?

DMcL1971

I am no car expert and don't want to spend months comparing all the different models of all the different makes in order to find the perfect car for me. So I thought that instead, I would shortcut the process my settling on a particular make of car and then choose the best model from their range that would suit me.

I have been driving my current car, a 2001 Audi A4, for 10 years. I want to get a new car and intend to keep it for 15 years. My biggest concerns are reliability and low running costs. I do very low mileage and have no kids.

I am strongly considering buying a brand new Hyundai in the next few days and am looking for either re-assurance that I have made the right decision or to be warned off if I am missing out on something better.

Seeing as how I have an old car and don't want to go through the hassle of having to sell it, I went for a brand that are offering a scrappage deal. Also I hear that Hyundai are a very reliable make of car.

I haven't fully decided between the i20 or i30 yet but just want re-assurance that I am not missing out an a better option before I start comparing the spec level on the different Hyundai's.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Stoner

I'm no expert either, when in your position I came here and received top class advice last year.

I compared many car and ended up with a new civic, it was for my wife she'd had one from new for eight year before that and we sold it in four days for over 6K.

They have a good spec, reliable and hold their value. That's my experience anyway.

bazz26

Nothing wrong with modern Hyundais. The new i20 is a fine car and looks quite smart in the right colour. 5 year unlimited mileage warranty too.

I'd also look at the Kia Rio and Ceed, Kia is the sister company of Hyundai, the Rio is mechanically the same as the i20 and the Ceed is mechanically the same as the i30. Since you do low mileage the 7 year or 150k km warranty on the Kia might appeal further, though the car has to have an inspection by a Kia dealer once every 12 months which usually equates to a basic oil service and checkup.

Bassfish

Rented an i20 in South Africa for three weeks, put 1500km on it across different terrains. Found it very comfortable and didn't feel laborious over long distances like small cars often do. Would be quite happy to drive one again. Nice and nippy for city driving too.

Atlantic Dawn

Does it have to be new? Would make far better sense to pick something up 3 years old and run that for 10 if running costs are an issue, depreciation is likely to be your biggest running cost.

bazz26

I'm assuming the OP is availing of the scrappage offer on a new one. If the OP plans to keep the car for 15 years then depreciation is not a major concern.

DMcL1971

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd also look at the Kia Rio and Ceed, Kia is the sister company of Hyundai, the Rio is mechanically the same as the i20 and the Ceed is mechanically the same as the i30. Since you do low mileage the 7 year or 150k km warranty on the Kia might appeal further, though the car has to have an inspection by a Kia dealer once every 12 months which usually equates to a basic oil service and checkup.

I don't think Kia are doing a scrappage deal though, so buying new, with an old car, should work out better with Hyundai rather than Kia. But otherwise I would certainly consider the Kia.

bazz26 wrote: »

I'm assuming the OP is availing of the scrappage offer on a new one. If the OP plans to keep the car for 15 years then depreciation is not a major concern.

That is correct. My current Audi is only worth about 1-1.5K and I don't fancy the hassle of trying to sell it. So a scrappage deal seems like a god send to me. Someone will give me a 4K discount and take the old car off my hands.

grogi

bazz26 wrote: »

I'm assuming the OP is availing of the scrappage offer on a new one. If the OP plans to keep the car for 15 years then depreciation is not a major concern.

Congratulate you must I, to throw out a grand a year not a big concern to be.

DMcL1971

grogi wrote: »

Congratulate you must I, to throw out a grand a year not a big concern to be.

Sorry Grogi, i don't get what you mean?

Gael23

The i30 is good but bear in mind that it is considerably smaller than the A4. If you want a similar size car then you'd be looking at the i40

DMcL1971

Gael23 wrote: »

The i30 is good but bear in mind that it is considerably smaller than the A4. If you want a similar size car then you'd be looking at the i40

As it is, the A4 is bigger than I need. 95% of the time it just me in the car and I don't do much mileage, so I reckon the i30 or maybe even the i20 would be fine.

bazz26

grogi wrote: »

Congratulate you must I, to throw out a grand a year not a big concern to be.

Have a read of the original post again then have a think before posting next time. The OP will be keeping the car for 15 years and probably looking to avail of another scrappage scheme at that time again. So depreciation doesn't come into it when you keep a car that long and plan to scrap it after your done with it.

bazz26

The 1995 to 2001 A4 or the 2001 onwards A4 were not huge on the inside anyway. An i40 is a fair bit more expensive than an i30 too.

grogi

Gael23 wrote: »

The i30 is good but bear in mind that it is considerably smaller than the A4. If you want a similar size car then you'd be looking at the i40

Both have wheelbase of 2650mm - will be very similar size inside...

grogi

bazz26 wrote: »

Have a read of the original post again then have a think before posting next time. The OP will be keeping the car for 15 years and probably looking to avail of another scrappage scheme at that time again. So depreciation doesn't come into it when you keep a car that long and plan to scrap it after your done with it.

Depreciation ALWAYS is a very significant cost of having a car.

I'll assume that one would use another 4k scrappage deal when the car turns 15 years old... Buying a car for 25k and keeping it for 15 years gives depreciation cost of 1.4k a year. Buying 3year old for 14k and keeping it for 12years gives €830...

Not a grand (as suggested before) of difference, but still significant. For me... If that 600 is insignificant, I can only congratulate.

Donkeygonads

Scrappage is €3,500 on i20 or €4,000 on i30. New order must be placed by end of december and new car must be registered by end of January.

bazz26

grogi wrote: »

Depreciation ALWAYS is a very significant cost of having a car.

I'll assume that one would use another 4k scrappage deal when the car turns 15 years old... Buying a car for 25k and keeping it for 15 years gives depreciation cost of 1.4k a year. Buying 3year old for 14k and keeping it for 12years gives €830...

Not a grand (as suggested before) of difference, but still significant. For me... If that 600 is insignificant, I can only congratulate.

I don't need congratulating, I understand how cars depreciate and accept it's part of owning a car but its just one aspect of the total cost of car ownership. It's a material figure if you change cars frequently where less so the longer you keep the same car. There are other things too to take into account with a 3 year old car v a brand new car too. Brand new one has a longer warranty, practically no wear on it or no previous history of issues and may cost less to own overall over 15 or even longer when you take all costs into account. Being penny smart doesn't always mean you are pound wise.

grogi

bazz26 wrote: »

I don't need congratulating, I understand how cars depreciate and accept it's part of owning a car but its just one aspect of the total cost of car ownership. It's a material figure if you change cars frequently where less so the longer you keep the same car. There are other things too to take into account with a 3 year old car v a brand new car too. Brand new one has a longer warranty, practically no wear on it or no previous history of issues and may cost less to own overall over 15 or even longer when you take all costs into account. Being penny smart doesn't always mean you are pound wise.

You're absolutely right.

Buying new has many advantages, many of which cannot be quantified into money - and only one disadvantage - the cost of depreciation... It was, is and always will be major.

vistaphotos

- I made the decision to trade in a 15 year old Corolla for a new i30, delivery in January, availing of the €4k scrappage (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057526619)
- My mileage is low so I went with a petrol model. Also drove an i20 which impressed in terms of interior space, but I think the i30 is more solid on the road and a better drive.
- Hyundai 5 year unlimited mileage warranty, with roadside assist was a big attraction to me. Spec, fit & finish also impressed. The scrappage is also a huge factor of course.
- Looked at the Kia Cee'd because I think it's a better looking car externally. I didn't like the interior, quality not the same as Hyundai and lots of glossy black plastic which shows up every finger mark. 0% finance alright, but no scrappage ruled it out. Sales stats for Hyundai also show many more Hyundai on the road compared to Kia (http://www.beepbeep.ie/stats)
- Good luck in your deliberations

noelf

I suppose op you could allways get the bus ..

DMcL1971

noelf wrote: »

I suppose op you could allways get the bus ..

I have been taking the bus and Luas for the last couple of days. Any car, Hyundai or not, has got to be better:)

vistaphotos

Donkeygonads wrote: »

Scrappage is €3,500 on i20 or €4,000 on i30. New order must be placed by end of december and new car must be registered by end of January.

- As of today scrappage date extended again to Jan 31st 2016 http://www.hyundai.ie/161offers/index.php
- Deluxe 1.4 Petrol i30 also added at €21495 list price, versus €19745 for classic. It's at the bottom of the drop down on http://www.hyundai.ie/car/i30-face-lift

DMcL1971

Thank you for all the advice everyone. I ended up buying the i20 Deluxe, it should arrive in about 3 weeks.

colm_mcm

Nice one, what colour did you end up ordering

DMcL1971

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nice one, what colour did you end up ordering

I think it was called Star Dust Metallic. It is a sort of dark grey.

vistaphotos

Congratulations great spec on the Deluxe, enjoy it!

grogi

DMcL1971 wrote: »

Thank you for all the advice everyone. I ended up buying the i20 Deluxe, it should arrive in about 3 weeks.

Excellent. Good luck with the new one!

Gaeilgobrach

Scrappage is back

You made my day. Didn't realise when I went to look at the Tucson that the scrappage was finishing end of Dec. I'm delighted its extended. Will be heading to the dealer first thing in the morning. Thank you for the info.