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ONE FC to ban weight cuts

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,383 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    ASOT wrote: »
    One FC has banned weight cutting my dehydration after there fighter died two weeks ago.

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/12/23/10657698/one-championship-announces-new-weigh-in-program-following-fighter-s

    How could they even monitor and enforce that though? Pretty much everyone does it, it's 100% the norm these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    martyos121 wrote: »
    How could they even monitor and enforce that though? Pretty much everyone does it, it's 100% the norm these days.

    Multiple weigh ins before the fight including one three hours before the event. So basically you would have to be in certain limit of each weigh in I'd assume.

    "Under the new program, fighters will have to weigh-in several times before and during fight week, including three hours before the event."


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Stopping weight cutting is good, difficult but good. Its a health hazard. And even if you cut out weight cutting most fighters would still be together in that weight class just pushed up, is. Most 170s would go to 190, most 155s would go to around 170 etc. It would just cut the excessive weight cutters out of their division, like Hendricks or even Conor. Things would be much the same, but with healthier and fresher fighters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    About ONE Championship™

    GENERAL REGULATIONS & POLICIES

    RELATED TO ATHLETES’ WEIGHT

    1. Athletes must submit their current walking weight and daily training weight regularly. Athletes will input and track their daily weight online via a dedicated web portal. Athletes may input data weekly but must include daily weights.

    2. Athletes will be assigned to their weight class based on collated data and random weight checks. Athletes are not allowed to drop a weight class when less than 8 weeks out from an event.

    3. During fight week, weights are checked daily. Urine specific gravity will also be checked the day after arrival and 3 hours prior to the event. Athletes must be within their weight class and pass specific gravity hydration tests all week and up to 3 hours before the event. If an athlete falls outside the weight, or fails a test, they are disqualified from the event. Doctors may request additional testing at their discretion.

    4. Catch weight bouts are allowed. However, the athlete with the higher weight will not be heavier than 105% of the lighter opponent’s weight.

    5. ONE will conduct random weight checks on athletes at our discretion.

    6. Athletes may petition to change weight classes outside of the 8-week competition zone and must be within their new desired weight at that time. In addition, athletes must pass a specific gravity urine test when their weight is within the limits of the newly petitioned weight class. ONE doctors can request additional testing to determine the amount of weight drop allowed over a specific time.

    7. The usage of IVs for the purpose of rehydration will not be allowed.

    Overage and limits of weight reduction:

    · 3 weeks to event day: Athlete must be within contracted weight class

    · 4 weeks: 1.5% bodyweight over max

    · 5 weeks: 3%

    · 6 weeks: 4.5%

    · 7 weeks: 6%

    · 8 weeks: +6% max over.

    (ONE Chief Doctor may approve up to +/- 0.5% maximum error in any weekly weight check)

    http://onefc.com/news/611-one-championship-revolutionizes-mma-with-new-weigh-in.html


    ONE CHAMPIONSHIP™ REVOLUTIONIZES MMA WITH NEW WEIGH-IN PROGRAM;
    BANS WEIGHT-CUTTING BY DEHYDRATION

    23 December 2015 – Singapore: Asia’s largest sports media property, ONE Championship™ (ONE), has announced that the organization will lead the global MMA industry by banning weight-cutting by dehydration and instituting a new set of regulations and policies governing the weigh-in procedures and contracted weight limits. The new program, which is the first of its kind for combat sports, is focused on athlete safety by introducing "walking-weight" competition via multiple weigh-ins and tests before and during fight week, including 3 hours before an event begins.

    Athletes will now compete at their "walking-weight", which will be determined by a robust system that will track his/her weight on a regular basis throughout the period that the athlete is contracted to ONE. Full details of the new weigh-in program can be found below.

    The revolutionary weigh-in program was established after thorough discussions and recommendations by ONE Championship's medical and competition team, consisting of Chief Doctor Dr. Warren Wang, Chief Medical Advisor Dr. James Okamoto, Vice President Mr. Rich Franklin, Vice President of Operations & Competition Mr. Matt Hume, Global Athlete Services & Competition Director Mr. Richard Auty and China Athlete Services & Competition Director Mr. Vaughn Anderson.

    CEO of ONE Championship™ Victor Cui stated, “ONE Championship has paved the way for MMA in Asia and we have always been at the forefront of innovation for the sport. By banning weight cutting by dehydration, we are leading the way globally for enhanced safety standards for professional MMA athletes. We believe that through the implementation of this new weigh-in program, our fighters will enjoy a safer and healthier life inside and outside of the cage. I invite the other two major global MMA organizations, Bellator and UFC, to follow in our footsteps to protect athletes and to eliminate the process of weight cutting by dehydration."

    Vice President of ONE Championship™ Rich Franklin stated, "Today I'm proud to have been involved with developing the new weigh-in program for ONE athletes. As a former MMA champion, I've been through the process of weight-cutting by dehydration countless times and I know first-hand how it affects an athlete physically. I personally understand the importance of safety and competing at your very best as a professional MMA athlete and after reviewing the new regulations and policies governing the weigh-in procedures and contracted weight limits, this new program does both for our athletes."

    Vice President of Operations & Competition of ONE Championship™ Matt Hume stated, "The safety of our athletes is the top priority of ONE. After bringing in top medical officials from both the USA and Asia, we believe we have put together the best possible weigh-in program in combat sports. This program will revolutionize the way weigh-ins are conducted around the world and we look forward to the positive outcome it will have on safety standards related to weight-cutting globally."

    The new program will commence from January 2016 and will be applied to all athletes competing under the ONE banner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,188 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ASOT wrote: »
    Multiple weigh ins before the fight including one three hours before the event. So basically you would have to be in certain limit of each weigh in I'd assume.

    "Under the new program, fighters will have to weigh-in several times before and during fight week, including three hours before the event."

    I agree with the sentiment, but not with the way they are going about it. I just can't see how it will work. What happens when a fighter comes into fight week a little heavy, they'll end up dehydrating for to hit the numbers.

    It's not widely publicized but the UFC do check weigh-ins all during fight week also.
    Stopping weight cutting is good, difficult but good. Its a health hazard. And even if you cut out weight cutting most fighters would still be together in that weight class just pushed up, is. Most 170s would go to 190, most 155s would go to around 170 etc. It would just cut the excessive weight cutters out of their division, like Hendricks or even Conor. Things would be much the same, but with healthier and fresher fighters.
    I agree that stopping huge weight cutting is good. But, I don't think that's what will happen. For say they start booking fights based on walk around weight at contract time, will a little leeway for fight condition. So two current LWs are probably booked for a WW title fight.
    What happens when one of them turns up to fight week at 175? He needs to make 170 on Fri and Sat. That's easily done, but probably means he's not rehydrated by the fight.


    Edit: Just seen the post on the other thread. THey have to make weight 3 weeks out. But its self inputted at home. LOL, nobody will lie about that with their livelihood on the line.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,188 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Mods, is it possible to move OndFC weight cut posts to the thread started by Dave1982?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Exactly why I'm fairly confident it won't work as planned Mellor, good points. I'd like to see less drastic cuts myself but unless it is compleatly banned which I'm not sure they could do the it'll never stop imo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Its complete madness what the fighters are doing messing with their bodies to be a certain weight for a few minutes a day before a fight,I dont know an exact fix but its not as easy as this idea one fc is doing,contracts situation will get messy I presume if the fighters dont want this.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    It does seem that in a potentially dangerous sport the most dangerous thing they do is 2 days before the fight!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Posts merged from other thread.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Its going to be very difficult to stop weight cutting realistically, but if you can even minimise it to cut out the guys cutting 20-30 lbs we'd be doing well.


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