2016 All - Ireland Winners predictions?

Western Pomise

Firstly Happy Christmas to all fellow GAA heads,all the best for 2016.

Here's my 2016 predictions ~

Football Winners ~Dublin
Losing finalists~ Tyrone.


Hurling 2016~
Winners~Kilkenny
Runners- Up~ Tipperary.

blackcard

Western Pomise wrote: »

Firstly Happy Christmas to all fellow GAA heads,all the best for 2016.

Here's my 2016 predictions ~

Football Winners ~Dublin
Losing finalists~ Tyrone.


Hurling 2016~
Winners~Kilkenny
Runners- Up~ Tipperary.

2016 Football Dublin
2017 Football Dublin
2018 Football Dublin
2019 Football Dublin
2020 Football Dublin
2021 Football Dublin
You get the message

PlayByTheRules

Western Pomise wrote: »

Firstly Happy Christmas to all fellow GAA heads,all the best for 2016.

Here's my 2016 predictions ~

Football Winners ~Dublin
Losing finalists~ Tyrone.


Hurling 2016~
Winners~Kilkenny
Runners- Up~ Tipperary.

Not sure about the runners-up that you have but the winners sound about right, bookies would agree with you.

Hard to see Kilkenny beaten next year, they walked it this year and all other counties are having troubles of sorts (management, key retirements). If Richie Hogan or TJ Reid were to get injured for the year I might reconsider but I think the 13/8 on offer for Kilkenny is attractive.

They have Dublin at 11/8 in the football, I'd actually have it the other way around Kilkenny (11/8) in the hurling and Dublin (13/8) in the football.

big_drive

Hurling- Kilkenny

Football- Dublin

I find it hard to look past the obvious two

Impossible to call the runners up as that depends on the way the draw works out. The 2nd best team in the c'ship could be gone in the quarters if they draw the eventual champions

roy rodgers

Football kildare


Hurling galway

slegs

The two big famines to end in 2016

Hurling - Limerick
Football - Mayo

Sunnyisland

Football Kilkenny

hurling Dublin

PTH2009

Hurling- kilkenny
Football- Dublin

Realt Dearg Sec

slegs wrote: »

The two big famines to end in 2016

Hurling - Limerick
Football - Mayo

Even as a Kilkenny fan I'd have to be a little happy if that panned out

topmanamillion

Football - Monaghan
Hurling - Waterford
May as well go for 2 outsiders rather than everyone else's favourites. I don't reckon Dublin will retain it.

Green Peter

Football - Galway
R up - Mayo

Hurling - Galway
R up - Tipp

If carlsberg........

Davys Fits

Hurling... Galway
Football....Dublin

iDave

Now that they've bravely toppled the evil management regimes that's been holding them back.....

Football: Mayo
Hurling: Galway

ProudDUB

Football.

Winner: Tyrone
Runner up: Kerry

Hurling.

Winner: Kilkenny
Runner Up: Like it matters? :rolleyes:

The finals are 8-9 months away and each season takes on its own shape but at this stage it's hard to make an argument for anyone bar the obvious two. Kilkenny and Dublin.

In the hurling, the big question is who is equipped to beat Kilkenny in a knockout match and it's hard to make a strong case for any team.

Waterford took big steps forward last year and looked genuine contenders in May and June but on the bigger days their game plan was a bit limited to be anything more than competitive. Can they evolve this year and give themselves the platform to put a winning score on the board in big games. 14-17 points may win 1 in 10 big games but usually isn't near enough even in a defensive battle. More importantly can they generate the belief within their squad that they are good enough. Their game against Clare is huge for both sides season. Don't see either making a significant impact if they lose that.

Clare have strengthened their backroom team and to me they are the one team who if they get themselves right may make a big impact on the championship. They do start in division 1b though and you'd question after 4 years of Davy if the mood is right in the camp. Clare limped out badly in 2014 which was forgivable but last year never even raised a gallop.

Hard to know where Tipperary are at. Plenty of underage promise but with the clearout of older players we'll have to see how the squad and new management blend. Would expect to see them in the Munster final at least.

Limerick had a good u21 team this year but were a huge let down last year. I think the spine of the older lads took them as far as they could. They'll take a year or two to rebuild imo.

Cork are Cork and will probably come up with a big result at some stage. Its easy forget they were seconds away from winning an All-Ireland in 2013 with a mediocre side so they can never be completely ruled out but they are going to take time to re-emerge as All-Ireland contenders imo.

I'd love for Galway to do it but we usually follow up a season of promise with a bad year. The change in management situation leaves big questions and places huge pressure on the players. The capitulation when Kilkenny upped the tempo on both big days last year and in 2014 (as well as against Tipp in 2014) leaves even bigger questions over the mentality of the team. The performances against Cork and in particular Tipperary show the capability of this team. Galway did make progress last year but for me we need to find replacements for the likes of Tannian, Smith, Collins even Donnellan. Full back was kind of a make do job last year too. Potential is there but a whole host of question marks as always with Galway.

Wexford are slowly improving but the u21 collapse following on from the hiding against Kilkenny and being blown away in the first half against Cork stalled any momentum they got from 2013. They may take Dublin in the quarter final but that would mean having to face Kilkenny. Dublin look in disarray and will have a short season imo.

The only real thing I can see stopping Kilkenny is a bad run of injuries as undoubtedly 16-30 isn't anywhere near as strong as a few years back. Kilkenny and Cody never seem to run out of motivation. They were very stale in 2013 following on from an extended 2012. Hard to see them making the same mistake again.

In football the contenders are limited. Dublin never pushed on the following year after their previous AI victories in 2011 and 2013. 2012 they were never at the right level. 2014 they were hyped up too much and were deservedly blitzed by Donegal. They picked it up just when they needed to last year. They were poor against Westmeath and Fermanagh and the first day against Mayo were there for the taking. 2nd day against Mayo they were vulnerable after Mayo's goal but stepped it up at the right time and had the bench to kill the game off. They deservedly beat Kerry in the final. They have the best panel in the country but again have the challenge of peaking at the right time after demolishing everyone in Leinster.

Eamonn Fitzmaurice has done superbly with Kerry imo but last year's final was a big let down. Like Kilkenny they deal with retirements and lads getting old and still stay strong. They are setup for an earlier meeting with Dublin this year. I have a feeling Cork may be due to take them at home in Munster.

Mayo have a new management team but its the guts of the same panel who have come up short over the last 5 years. Mayo have played some great stuff and have played a huge part in saving the championship from being a complete washout over the last couple of years. This year they are on Ulster's side of the draw so are mapping a course to the final but they may hit a roadblock before then. It'll be interesting to see if they run in to Roscommon how they fare even if it is in Castlebar.

Tyrone, Donegal and Cork may take a provincial crown and/or a scalp like Kerry or Mayo but aren't All-Ireland contenders imo. I'd hope to see further evidence of progress from Tyrone this year.

Being honest, the only excitement in the championship up to the latter stages will likely be seeing how the likes of Kildare, Roscommon and Tipperary progress.

Andre 3000

Hurling: Galway beat Tipp
Football: Kerry beat Mayo

Realbhoy

A nice easy job to round off the year!! I would agree with a lot of what has been posted do far. I think 2015 was the time to take Kilkenny but I think teams just didn't believe that they could actually beat them. If Waterford alter their game plan slightly and really let the types of de burca off the leash then they should build on last season and make a serious challenge. Likewise I think the Clare challenge will have been boosted by the additions to the playing and management rosters. That will be an excellent game when they meet in June. My own county(Limerick) are in a state of flux and will not be helped by Na piarsaighs excellent form. The league will be crucial and with so many involved with the club finding a settled 15 will be difficult. Will be tough to beat either Tipp or Cork but would prefer cork only for home advantage.
For the football it's hard to look past the dubs again but I have a fancy for Tyrone. The under 21s are ready to slot into the senior set up, especially physically, so I can see them having a good year. Donegal will have a point to prove but I can't see where the game changer is going to come from (in terms of new blood into the panel). Cork are in transition as are Mayo but the latter are probably a little more equipped to travel a little further along the championship route.
TLDR version: Kilkenny(pushed closely by Waterford) Dublin (edging out Tyrone)
Here's to a great championship 2016

seligehgit

Football Dublin
Hurling Kilkenny

Triboro

H. Galway beat Kilkenny
F. Kerry beat Mayo

thewildcat

hurling Kilkenny

football the Dubs same as 2015.

Mr. Incognito

Football will be between Dublin, Mayo and Kerry and any of them could win it on the day.

Hurling will be Kilkenny unless Galway learn how not to bottle it.

ProudDUB

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Football will be between Dublin, Mayo and Kerry and any of them could win it on the day.

Hurling will be Kilkenny unless Galway learn how not to bottle it.

Come on. Gerrof that fence. Every else has.

Easca Peasca

Heart says
Football: Mayo to beat Dublin
Hurling: Clare to beat Kilkenny

Head says
Football: Dublin to beat Kerry
Hurling: Kilkenny to beat Tipp

TCDStudent1

Dublin to win football. Ulster team (probably Tyrone) to beat Mayo at some stage.

Kilkenny to win hurling but Clare to have a much improved year.

Mr. Incognito

ProudDUB wrote: »

Come on. Gerrof that fence. Every else has.

Kerry.

PressRun

I'd really like to see Clare rediscover their best in the hurling. Thought they were quite exciting to watch last time they won. It might shake things up a bit if they can get back to that.

The_Honeybadger

Hard to see past Kilkenny in the hurling, I didn't fancy them at all in 2015 but they have shown remarkable ability to deal with retirements and the loss of key players. Would love to see Galway Tipp or Limerick break their dominance but my vote goes to Kilkenny at the minute.

The football is more open IMO. Dublin have the best panel but will feel the loss of O'Carroll and retaining Sam is very difficult, no team has done it in almost a decade. It looks set up for a Kerry v Dublin semi and the winner will take Sam I think. Kerry's season will depend on whether Tommy Walsh and Colm cooper can rediscover some of their old form after devastating injuries and they need to find at least one new depenable defender. They have had good success at underage level in recent years so new talent emerging wouldn't be a surprise.

The winners meet Mayo or Tyrone in the final and neither have what it takes to beat either of the above, certainly not Tyrone anyway. Mayo could come good under new management but I think 2014 was their year when they definitely should have beaten Kerry and would almost certainly have beaten Donegal in the final.

Prediction overall: Kerry (massively biased)

Duiske

Hurling : Kilkenny. Probably Tipp as runners-up, but Limerick could be the surprise team this year.

Football : Kerry. Dublin runners-up. Cork could prove to be best of the rest, but nowhere near top 2.

Stinicker

Galway will beat Kilkenny this year, Kerry will peak in August and defeat Dublin and avenge 2015 only for Mayo to wait in the long grass and defeat an exhausted Kerry team who will have given it everything against Dublin. Even though I'm from Kerry I'd just as happily see Mayo win, once the Dubs Double is stopped I'll be happy enough.

Paulzx

I've a sinking feeling that Kerry will take the football. The football back to back is so difficult that Dublin will be beaten. Even typing it is killing me:D Hopefully I'm wrong.


Kilkenny for the hurling. Back to backs don't worry them!!!

Bret Hart

Football 2016~
Football Winners ~Dublin
Losing finalists~ Mayo


Hurling 2016~
Winners~Kilkenny
Runners- Up~ Galway

PTH2009

Clare to be the Waterford of 2016. win div 1b and the league, they will reach the munster final and lose to a strong limerick team and then lose to kilkenny in the semi final after putting up a good battle.

Kilkenny vs Limerick all ireland final with Kilkenny steam rolling yet again.

2016 will be another year of the sweeper system.

Tipp, Cork, Waterford,Dublin to have off years

final 4 this year will be Kilkenny, Limerick, Clare and Galway.

STIG83

Had a flick through the 2016 Old Moore's Almanac.
For the hurling: Galway
Football: Mayo.

So I'll go with that.

dog_pig

mickeyk wrote: »

would almost certainly have beaten Donegal in the final.

Hard to look past Mayo's scorching All-Ireland final form alright.

The_Honeybadger

dog_pig wrote: »

Hard to look past Mayo's scorching All-Ireland final form alright.

That aside Mayo have beaten Donegal a number of times in recent years and Donegal definitely peaked in their semi that year. If they had overcome Kerry in 2014 I think they'd have gone all the way. We'll never know of course.

corny

Football: Dublin to finally go back to back. If its a Kerry semi and Mayo final (both sides keen for revenge) it'll cement their position as one of the best teams ever.

Hurling: Love to come up with a reason why Kilkenny will lose but i'd be clutching at straws.

Ok. If Dublin or Wexford ambush them in a Leinster semi and they get a crappy draw in the qualifiers then maybe. But i've a better chance of picking the lotto numbers tbh.

enoughtaken

blackcard wrote: »

2016 Football Dublin
2017 Football Dublin
2018 Football Dublin
2019 Football Dublin
2020 Football Dublin
2021 Football Dublin
You get the message

Who was the last Dublin Manager to win back to back senior football All Ireland Titles, and don't use google.

ProudDUB

Here's a hint. Not even King Heffo The Great was able to do it.

Slattsy

Football - Mayo

Hurling - who cares, its only played by shi* footballers

:P

Realt Dearg Sec

Slattsy wrote: »

Hurling - who cares, its only played by shi* footballers

:P

From what I can see the last few years, that's who are playing football too.

Bonniedog

ProudDUB wrote: »

Here's a hint. Not even King Heffo The Great was able to do it.

Last time Dublin won back to back seniors was early 1920s, so unless it is a trick question about a Dub who managed another county, I'll go with one of Paddy O'Donnell of O'Tooles!

PressRun

Bonniedog wrote: »

Last time Dublin won back to back seniors was early 1920s, so unless it is a trick question about a Dub who managed another county, I'll go with one of Paddy O'Donnell of O'Tooles!

Surely it was more recent than that?

Bonniedog

PressRun wrote: »

Surely it was more recent than that?

Afraid not. Won three in a row 1921, 1922, and 1923. No back to backs until 1976/77, and none since. Heffo was manager in 1976 and Hanahoe in 1977.

Doubt there even was a manager in 1920s tbh!

Xenophile

Slattsy wrote: »

Football - Mayo

Hurling - who cares, its only played by shi* footballers

:P

Be careful now or that curse of 1951 will never be lifted!

enoughtaken

Bonniedog wrote: »

Afraid not. Won three in a row 1921, 1922, and 1923. No back to backs until 1976/77, and none since. Heffo was manager in 1976 and Hanahoe in 1977.

Doubt there even was a manager in 1920s tbh!

Correct. Hard to believe. Think though Jim will change that stat this year.

Bonniedog

enoughtaken wrote: »

Correct. Hard to believe. Think though Jim will change that stat this year.

I think he might!

HanaleiJ5N

Winners? Kilkenny were very average (by their own very high standards) in 2015 and they weren't at all threatened in their four games. Kind of ominous that. Hard to look past them for 2016. Only way they won't win is if they are below average (like 2013) or an exceptional opponent emerges and matches their standards. An off year probably won't happen, can anyone match them? Clare probably have the means in terms of the calibre of player at their disposal but as long as they have Davy 'everyone is out to get me' Fitz is in charge it's hard to have full confidence in them. Parallels between himself and Jose Mourinho, excellent coaches, but they are so entrenched in their backs to the wall siege mentality that over time the atmosphere they create in the camp turns toxic, and players grow tired of it. It's a shame because we should presently be in the midst of a Clare v Kilkenny rivalry.

lim4ev

HanaleiJ5N wrote: »

Winners? Kilkenny were very average (by their own very high standards) in 2015 and they weren't at all threatened in their four games. Kind of ominous that. Hard to look past them for 2016. Only way they won't win is if they are below average (like 2013) or an exceptional opponent emerges and matches their standards. An off year probably won't happen, can anyone match them? Clare probably have the means in terms of the calibre of player at their disposal but as long as they have Davy 'everyone is out to get me' Fitz is in charge it's hard to have full confidence in them. Parallels between himself and Jose Mourinho, excellent coaches, but they are so entrenched in their backs to the wall siege mentality that over time the atmosphere they create in the camp turns toxic, and players grow tired of it. It's a shame because we should presently be in the midst of a Clare v Kilkenny rivalry.

Not so sure re the Clare kk rivalry I know Clare have top class players and maybe as many as kk but their lets say normal players are below kk if you know what I mean.for me they need a better goalie at least one in the full back line one in half back line and prob half forward too.can Clare win the all irl this yr?yes but for me if you are to look past kk this yr it has to be Galway or tipp

letsseehere14

Football:
Same olds int he quarters, Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal.
Dublin firm favs, the Kerry, then Mayo.

Hurling:
In Munster, Tipp best setup and with 5 of the last 8 champs they should win, but an ambush is definitely on the cards for them having to face Cork and then Limerick.
Clare in Munster are terrible. Clare the last 2 years are terrible. Waterford progressed but still not at the top level. Basically Tipps to lose.
Leinster, Kilkenny all the way, only Galway to stop them in the final but what Galway? beaten easily by KK twice last year. Scraped past an under performing Tipp bar Callinan who was worth 3 players that day. Still they only scraped past them.
Kilkenny v Tipp final bar a shock, cant pick a winner until you see what their up to this year.
Heart will still always say Limerick for Munster and making the final!

Bonniedog

letsseehere14 wrote: »

Football:
Same olds int he quarters, Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal.
Dublin firm favs, the Kerry, then Mayo.

Hurling:
In Munster, Tipp best setup and with 5 of the last 8 champs they should win, but an ambush is definitely on the cards for them having to face Cork and then Limerick.
Clare in Munster are terrible. Clare the last 2 years are terrible. Waterford progressed but still not at the top level. Basically Tipps to lose.
Leinster, Kilkenny all the way, only Galway to stop them in the final but what Galway? beaten easily by KK twice last year. Scraped past an under performing Tipp bar Callinan who was worth 3 players that day. Still they only scraped past them.
Kilkenny v Tipp final bar a shock, cant pick a winner until you see what their up to this year.
Heart will still always say Limerick for Munster and making the final!

Nobody mentioning Dublin in relation to the hurling. Not surprising given the recent retirements, defections and droppings. And more to come if the rumours are accurate.

Having said that, they have been good and scoring well in Walsh Cup games and some of peripheral players are using the opportunity well. I expect to see Eamonn Dillon as starter rather than impact sub this year.

However, reality bite was that Danny Suthcliffe who has left the panel was one of key players in DCU almost turning over Galway last Sunday.

Sad to say but key game in Summer could be against Wexford rather than any ambitions of taking on the bigger guns.

letsseehere14

Bonniedog wrote: »

Nobody mentioning Dublin in relation to the hurling. Not surprising given the recent retirements, defections and droppings. And more to come if the rumours are accurate.

Having said that, they have been good and scoring well in Walsh Cup games and some of peripheral players are using the opportunity well. I expect to see Eamonn Dillon as starter rather than impact sub this year.

However, reality bite was that Danny Suthcliffe who has left the panel was one of key players in DCU almost turning over Galway last Sunday.

Sad to say but key game in Summer could be against Wexford rather than any ambitions of taking on the bigger guns.

Dublin seem to have lost a few key players. 2013 was their big chance imo. They may still be a cut above Wexford but beat them and they face Kilkenny in the semi final. They were easily taken care of by Galway last year and by Waterford I think, after beating Limerick in a game Limerick should not have lost. It would be amazing to see them knock Kilkenny out in the Leinster semi final but then face Galway followed by probably a tough Munster team that has made its way through the qualifiers. I just cant see Dublin winning Leinster or making the AI semis tbh.
You never know, they took care of Wexford the year of their so called "revival" quite easily in Wexford Park.

Still for me in the Hurling Kilkenny and Tipp the two forerunners with Galway in third due to their inconsistency.