No reduction in sentence for Rapist

DellyBelly

Was looking at this news story http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/rapist-who-lured-young-girls-from-birthday-party-fails-in-bid-to-have-sentence-reduced-712435.html today. I remember the case well as it was such a frightening thing to happen.

What I find incredible is that his lawyers argued because of his co-operation with the police that he should have his sentence reduced. Do they really believe that? I know people are entitled to a fair hearing etc...but how in God's name can these lawyers even think of putting this argument up in order to get a reduction in his sentence...

Lovely Bloke

If there was no-one prepared to run defences then there'd be no justice system.

It is in the interests of everyone that defence lawyers test the law to it's fullest, and try to pick holes in it.

It is absolutely right that they seek the best outcome for their clients, otherwise they'd be doing a bad job, and bad defence lawyers make for a bad justice system.

brevity

Shouldn't have read the article.

screamer

No conscience and big fees.

I'm delighted that he got no reduction in sentence although even life in prison presumably about 10 years is a pathetic sentence compared to what he did to those little ones and their families.

Id be very glad for the likes of him to spend the rest of his miserable life caged like the animal he is.

BMJD

DellyBelly wrote: »

What I find incredible is that his lawyers argued because of his co-operation with the police that he should have his sentence reduced. Do they really believe that?

it works out ok for an awful lot of scumbags, probably worth a shot

court heard scumbag is trying to turn his life around, got involved in drugs at a young age, hopes to get a job blah blah blah

eviltwin

They are hired to do a job so they have to do the best job they can. I can't understand why they take these cases in the first place sometimes. I know I wouldn't give 100% in to defending scum like that, I couldn't bring myself to engage with him at all. I guess they become desensitized over time, probably have to in order to deal with all the stuff they hear.

SEPT 23 1989

total waste of money keeping that alive for the next few decades

howamidifferent

As a parent of young girls I'd say he'd be safer in prison....

Summer wind

Evil scum. I hope he serves every last second he was sentenced. He will probably be pampered and kept away from the general population while he's inside for "his own safety". He will do it again when he gets out. He should be castrated.

Potential-Monke

It's normal for defence solicitors to argue for reduced sentences due to co-operation. It's there for a reason. Reduced sentences for co-operation give people who are definitely guilty a reason to plead guilty. If there was no reduced sentences for doing so, all cases would be contested and waste court/garda/solicitor time.

What annoys me is the concurrent sentencing. He got 2 life sentences which are running concurrently, so really he is only serving 1 life sentence. There should never, ever be concurrent sentencing, it should all be consecutive!

Gatling

Early co operation after the 5th interview.

whatismyname

Remember reading a few weeks ago that he was up in the Court of Appeal. Searched for an outcome about a week later but couldn't find anything, so thanks for posting.

Obviously, very glad that he didn't get any reduction. He deserves never to be allowed out again.

El Guapo!

I don't understand the hate defense lawyers get sometimes.
They're doing a job, and if that jobs gets a murderer/rapist released, it's not their fault. It's a failure on the part of the justice system.

kylith

El Guapo! wrote: »

I don't understand the hate defense lawyers get sometimes.
They're doing a job, and if that jobs gets a murderer/rapist released, it's not their fault. It's a failure on the part of the justice system.

Not to mention that those who are falsely accused of crimes rely on them

Ineedaname

El Guapo! wrote: »

I don't understand the hate defense lawyers get sometimes.
They're doing a job, and if that jobs gets a murderer/rapist released, it's not their fault. It's a failure on the part of the justice system.

Exactly. A lawyer swears an oath to give the best defense they can. They can't pick and choose which clients deserve it. That would be judging them. Which is the jury's job not theirs.

Gaillimh1976

howamidifferent wrote: »

As a parent of young girls I'd say he'd be safer in prison....

There's a long queue of people waiting for him to be released, definitely safer inside

Fred Swanson

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JupiterKid

Evil, evil man. He deserves every last second of his sentence. If he got out tomorrow a huge mob would be waiting at the prison gates to torture and lynch him - so he's definitely safer inside.

melissak

scumbag. I hope he dies in jail. Painfully.

TallGlass

El Guapo! wrote: »

I don't understand the hate defense lawyers get sometimes.
They're doing a job, and if that jobs gets a murderer/rapist released, it's not their fault. It's a failure on the part of the justice system.

True. Thankfully the justice system held its own on this one and this sicko is still behind bars for many a year to come.

Satriale

Fair dues to the family for just detaining him. I doubt i would have been able.

Ken.

melissak wrote: »

scumbag. I hope he dies in jail. Painfully.

An hour before he's due to get out in however many years time would be nice.

mynamejeff

Satriale wrote: »

Fair dues to the family for just detaining him. I doubt i would have been able.

???? they couldn't have known surely ?

TallGlass

Satriale wrote: »

Fair dues to the family for just detaining him. I doubt i would have been able.

You do two things. Either kill him and you go to jail for a while.

Anything else is putting the entire case on the line, so best to detain him and not do anything to him. Scumbags like him out and about over a technically.