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Has violence ever put you off socializing

  • 19-12-2015 1:51am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 178 ✭✭


    With social events comes alcohol and with that sometimes comes undignified flailing scumbaggy fights.

    Especially when it comes to Dublin city center, on weekend nights.

    Have you ever given the idea of a night out a miss because of the deterrent of going into the midst of many drunk and violent people (a la temple bar).


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Less the violence more the heaving, crowding, noise and general mess of it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    No more than car crashes have put me off driving. More people in the US have been killed by their furniture than terrorism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I've often given a night out a miss because, after consulting my diary, I find that I'm quietly reading a nice book that night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged


    No I'm from Dublin and would have gone into town alot at the weekends during my 20s and rarely saw or encountered any violence so it was never something I would think about or be expecting on my way out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Ya....puts me off....I hate even being around busy places during the day...I nearly lost an eye/ended with a rake of stitches years ago in a mugging


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    It would not put me off going out. But I would not be heading in to Temple bar on St Patricks night. Aside from the fact that that is not my idea of a good night out -anyone remember the streetcam footage of people getting random baytins last year?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No.

    I would be careful about certain places, pubs etc. But not to the point of not going out at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    To a degree yes but it's more the uncomfortable shuffling to the bar amongst dozens of people in different states of drunkeness and having to shout and scream to be heard above the thumping relentless music. I don't enjoy that and I can't see how anyone would find that enjoyable. I much prefer a decent chat in a quiet cafe or quiet corner of a pub where I can hear the people in with and relax.
    Clubbing is massively over rated.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Clubbing is massively over rated.

    Over rated as most clubs are kips with a DJ playing Black Eyed Peas and Rihanna.

    On the other hand, my best nights out have involved some DJ getting a club fired up on good house or techno.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Superhorse


    I'd rather just live my life than wrap myself up in cotton wool. We can do nothing about scumbags acting like criminals either that be some fella smashing a bottle over your head or some judge locking someone up for not having a TV licence whilst letting repeat offender crooks walk free.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Nope, I go out to enjoy myself and to relax, and I wouldn't ever let a small minority of people ruin that for me. I know it's not a pleasant sight when it happens, but the thoughts of it happening would never put me off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    In going out in Dublin for more than 10 years I think I only ever saw 2 fights happening and never had anyone try to pick a fight with me.


    If you live your life in fear of what might happen then you may as well give up on it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Shit venues with overpriced piss on tap, pumping out obnoxiously loud music & wall to wall big screen TV's with Sky Sports/Eurosport/Setanta on mute, put me off going out & socialising in Dublin these days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    No, I just got old


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    Not Dublin, but I fancied going to Oxygen a few years back as there were 4 or 5 bands there that I wanted to see. I would have gone in the van and slept in it, away from the campsites, but I just didn't want the complete hassle of some of the gobshltes who populate that place.

    I had a ticket for the Reading Festival in 1988 but sold it to avoid the casual violence that was typical of it at that time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    You'll only get in fights if you're an aggressive person or your friends are aggressive, alcohol isn't the problem here its violent people. My friends and I have never been in fights in dublin CC, we go out every week and drink plenty. Alcohol isn't what causes fights, its people with violent tendencies. People like to get in fights and then blame it on alcohol, really you're just an asshole and alcohol loosened you up enough to get in the fights you always wanted to be in anyway .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Ya can't beat a good fight at the end of a drunken night out, makes the weekend worthwhile.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Never really been involved in or encountered and significant violence on a night out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭ponzook


    With social events comes alcohol and with that sometimes comes undignified flailing scumbaggy fights.

    Especially when it comes to Dublin city center, on weekend nights.

    Have you ever given the idea of a night out a miss because of the deterrent of going into the midst of many drunk and violent people (a la temple bar).

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,711 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    Shit venues with overpriced piss on tap, pumping out obnoxiously loud music & wall to wall big screen TV's with Sky Sports/Eurosport/Setanta on mute, put me off going out & socialising in Dublin these days...

    You really need to go to the right pubs, loads of options of going out in Dublin without any of the above and decent beer.

    Really hate the slagging off Dublin gets here.

    Regarding fights, been socialising for over 20 years in Dublin , never seen any hassle and it's easily avoided. If you're not looking for trouble it generally doesn't find you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    There's more aggression, arguments, tension and fighting on Boards than you'll ever have on a night out ......... I go out on the lash just to get break away from a thread war now & again!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Yep, I wouldnt stay out till closing during RAG week in Maynooth years ago, with so many drunk people spilling on to the streets it wasn't worth the hassle of getting a random punch or kick from some eejit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    No, it wouldn't stop me going out, but it might have an impact on how I got home and which route I took.
    wakka12 wrote: »
    People like to get in fights and then blame it on alcohol, really you're just an asshole and alcohol loosened you up enough to get in the fights you always wanted to be in anyway .
    Completely disagree - certainly there are people who look for trouble, but there are people who just were in the wrong place at the wrong time and did nothing to initiate or otherwise deserve the beating they got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,400 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Has never put me off socialising but I would always be wary of the possibility of it and keep an eye on my situation/surroundings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭captbarnacles


    wakka12 wrote: »
    You'll only get in fights if you're an aggressive person or your friends are aggressive, alcohol isn't the problem here its violent people. My friends and I have never been in fights in dublin CC, we go out every week and drink plenty. Alcohol isn't what causes fights, its people with violent tendencies. People like to get in fights and then blame it on alcohol, really you're just an asshole and alcohol loosened you up enough to get in the fights you always wanted to be in anyway .

    That is fantasy. Lots of people have been hit for no reason but being near drunk violent asshole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    No, I got stabbed 3 times in a ruckus in the city centre not long ago, and it hasn't put me off, I was already an unsociable git.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,072 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    I find little towns to be rougher than "cities"
    Got chased outa Supermacs in Claremorris before for being "a Galway boy"
    I've gotten punched in back of the head in Castlebar for mistaken identity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    well last week we all got really smashed
    we couldn't stand up it was a real laugh
    next week's gonna be just the same
    and the next and the next again and again
    they say you've got to have fun while you're young
    cos they can't believe there's anything else except this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSgL64oXzKI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Yes. I like to spend my time under a rock with a book and an AK47 to stay safe each Friday and Saturday night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    I've only ever been involved in one fight on a night out. Unfortunatly I came out of it the worst, but it had no effect on me going out socialising whatsoever.

    Socialising for me these days can be hit or miss depending on the venue and the people. The perfect example was my work Christmas night out on Thursday night. The pub we chose had decent craft beers on tap and most of the noise being made was conversation. We made up nearly 90% of the crowd in the place and there were no pissheads among us. A great night so far.

    Hitting a club afterwards was a stark contrast however. Ended up drinking Heineken which tasted like piss (more like piss than usual for some reason) and had to put up with crap chart music being blared into my ears. Also had to endure one or two drunken idiots bumping into me and spilling some of my pint. I seriously can't remember the last time I actually enjoyed myself in a club.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 422 ✭✭LeeLooLee


    Yes. I hardly ever go out in Ireland at all because of this. I just can't be bothered with the whole manky atmosphere of it. One of the best things about living in Spain is that people drink moderately and don't consider being drunk to be an excuse to act like an appalling, obnoxious human being.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    ****ing dying lads. You've no idea how prinny I am at the moment. Never be put out or off it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    osarusan wrote: »
    Completely disagree - certainly there are people who look for trouble, but there are people who just were in the wrong place at the wrong time and did nothing to initiate or otherwise deserve the beating they got.

    Surprised this needs to be pointed out but I think he's referring to the people who start the fights, not the victims


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    Contrary to all the news reports, I have never seen anything going on in Dublin. Having said that though, I do spend time around the Home nightclub in Balbriggan and that place can be dodgy at closing up time outside (however I have never been on the receiving end). I did martial arts years ago but I'm seriously considering taking up Krav Maga again, Ireland has gone to the dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,126 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I've honestly not seen a serious fight in or outside of a nightclub since the good old days of Oasis in Carrickmacross.

    Used to be like Beirut at the end of the night there.. dodging fights like a game of Frogger trying to get to your bus!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,856 ✭✭✭wandererz


    At Christmas time a few years ago i took some people who were visiting Ireland out on a night out in town.
    Everything went well until the way back on the Luas green line.

    This well dressed but slightly older guy (55-65) and probably a stellar member of our business or civil service decides to have at us.

    He decides to insist on asking where they're from and several other questions.
    Being friendly and unassuming they answer him that they're from South Africa.
    Then he develops a problem with us because of that.
    He turns to my wife and proceeds to call her a "Helga".
    I can only assume that this was because she was blonde and white and he assumed her to be a Afrikaner.

    I told him that he just insulted one of his own Irish people with the type of nazi phraseology he just used.
    Strangely enough, he had insulted both the coloured and white people in the group.

    I then escorted all of my group off the Luas and into a taxi instead.

    My thanks to the people who called back to us and tried to get us to return and ignore that a**hole. We did not get back on.

    That was not overt violence but rather verbal abuse.
    That was not the only instance, but that and a few other situations certainly led to me curtailing any social excursions into Dublin with my wife and i alone.

    Which is sad because we used to go out and party like everyone else. But recently there's just too much to deal with, with antagonistic people.

    And that leads me to be more antagonistic as well.

    It's better to just avoid that ****e.


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