Am I qualified?

geowhitey1996

Evening all, I would like to ask a question regarding the green cert as there is no advice anywhere! I live in England and have bought a farm in Leitrim, I studied agriculture since leaving school for two years and have gained a city and guilds certificate, a level 3 diploma in agriculture and a level 3 extended diploma in agriculture and my question is are these equivalent to the green cert? Seems to have all the same content at the same level... Any help or advice?

ganmo

geowhitey1996 wrote: »

Evening all, I would like to ask a question regarding the green cert as there is no advice anywhere! I live in England and have bought a farm in Leitrim, I studied agriculture since leaving school for two years and have gained a city and guilds certificate, a level 3 diploma in agriculture and a level 3 extended diploma in agriculture and my question is are these equivalent to the green cert? Seems to have all the same content at the same level... Any help or advice?

Yes they are equivalent
But I'm not sure if that means you'll be seen as a qualified farmer though. I think there is a person here with a harder Adams degree and wasn't considered qualified

freedominacup

geowhitey1996 wrote: »

Evening all, I would like to ask a question regarding the green cert as there is no advice anywhere! I live in England and have bought a farm in Leitrim, I studied agriculture since leaving school for two years and have gained a city and guilds certificate, a level 3 diploma in agriculture and a level 3 extended diploma in agriculture and my question is are these equivalent to the green cert? Seems to have all the same content at the same level... Any help or advice?

Google Teagasc. They have a map on their home page showing office locations. There's an office on the south side of Dublin city. The address escapes me. It's their main office for the training side of the operation. Someone there will put you in touch with whoever is in charge of qualification equivalence. That person will categorically answer your question. Literally anyone else you ask is giving their opinion which carries no weight.

I had a problem with uk qualifications a couple of years ago and I had great help from a Teagasc regional manager who had at one point in his career run an agri college for Teagasc but even his word was useless. He helped smooth the way with the equivalence office but on it's own his word was useless. If your qualification is recent then equivalence is straight forward if it's older it's more difficult but a general rule of thumb is that you can only be expected to have a qualification equivalent to whatever was available here at the time. You do not have to show a fifteen year old uk qualification is equivalent to the 2015 model green cert only to a 2000 model green cert.

barnaman

As said contact Teagasc but I would say that its not equivalent.

http://www.nfq-qqi.com/qualifications-frameworks.html

Look at that

and

http://www.irishhealthcaretraining.ie/healthcare/77-health-a-social-care-city-a-guilds-qualification-level-3-diploma-4222-32

clearly says "City & Guilds Level 3 diploma .... is the equivalent to FETAC level 5

Not FETAC level 6 which is required to be a qualified farmer.

ellewood

freedominacup wrote: »

Google Teagasc. They have a map on their home page showing office locations. There's an office on the south side of Dublin city. The address escapes me. It's their main office for the training side of the operation. Someone there will put you in touch with whoever is in charge of qualification equivalence. That person will categorically answer your question. Literally anyone else you ask is giving their opinion which carries no weight.

I had a problem with uk qualifications a couple of years ago and I had great help from a Teagasc regional manager who had at one point in his career run an agri college for Teagasc but even his word was useless. He helped smooth the way with the equivalence office but on it's own his word was useless. If your qualification is recent then equivalence is straight forward if it's older it's more difficult but a general rule of thumb is that you can only be expected to have a qualification equivalent to whatever was available here at the time. You do not have to show a fifteen year old uk qualification is equivalent to the 2015 model green cert only to a 2000 model green cert.

Is it Kinsealy? ?
Near the entrance to cj haughy's placeðŸ˜
Had simular to u freedom got clarification from teagasc in kinsealy that qualification was equivalent but then after I got green cert they said it wasn't and the lad I got conformation off to say it was had left teagasc so I have a green cert but without the letter of equivalents not qualified enough for stamp duty Go figure

So make sure with teagasc and get in writing off them if u can. ..

barnaman

Looked into this further and pretty sure its not equivalent

https://www.ucas.com/sites/default/files/2015-uk-qualifications.pdf

If you go to City and Guilds Diplomas and Advanced Diplomas they are clearly NQF Level 3

Looking at below and others that translates as a level below that required in Ireland.
http://www.qqi.ie/Publications/Qualifications%20cross%20boundaries.pdf

longgonesilver

If you need equivalence to claim young farmer status from DAFF then ask Teagasc.

If you are looking for tax relief or some of the grants then there are lists on the Department of Finance/ Revenue websites.