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New Tv with Saorview why no UK stations?

  • 12-12-2015 09:12AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭


    New Panasonic TV. I tuned in the Saorview stations. Only have the Irish ones. Before this on the old Samsung tv I had a saorview box which gave me all the Uk stations as well obviously using same aerial. Am I missing something or do I need the box for UK stations? Live in North County Dublin if that has any relevance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭DopeTech


    Qprmeath wrote: »
    New Panasonic TV. I tuned in the Saorview stations. Only have the Irish ones. Before this on the old Samsung tv I had a saorview box which gave me all the Uk stations as well obviously using same aerial. Am I missing something or do I need the box for UK stations? Live in North County Dublin if that has any relevance
    If you have the old tv you could see if it'll tell you the frequencies etc that the UK channels are on, then do a manual scan for them on the new tv? Also does your tv ask for country at any stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    The Panasonic tv should easily pickup saorview and freeview in an overspill area if the aerial is set up correct.
    However the freeview signal may not be as strong depending on weather and where you live, you may need a manual tune for the freeview stations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    FrostyJim wrote: »
    If you have the old tv you could see if it'll tell you the frequencies etc that the UK channels are on, then do a manual scan for them on the new tv? Also does your tv ask for country at any stage?

    I tried Ireland in country and just got Ireland stations and then uk which gave me also just Irish stations but all jumbled up. In the area Im in its never been a problem getting UK stations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    How was your old tv set up.
    Did you get saorview channels on the tv or did everything come in on the box?
    What make/model was the box?

    Sorry about questions, just trying to figure out your old set up.

    Did you have a dish for receiving satellite channels?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Through the box Finlux SAO634


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Do you have a dish for receiving satellite channels?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    I think that box is possible just terrestrial signal receiver, which would work with both freeview and Saorview.
    It's possible the weather today is affecting freeview signal in North Dublin. Or else the Finux has a more sensitive tuner than the Panasonic tv.

    Could you set up the box again and see if you can still get the freeview channels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    You need a dish, OP.
    We have a telly with built-in Saorview, but without the dish, we would only have the standard Irish channels.
    Once your dish is up and the cable is fed into the back of your telly/Saorview box, you can then scan for the satellite channels.

    You can ring one of those companies that provide combi-boxes/dishes/TV services, etc and they can erect a dish for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    Do you have a dish for receiving satellite channels?

    I have a Sky dish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Qprmeath wrote: »
    I have a Sky dish

    Plug it into the back of your Saorview box and do a scan for satellite channels.
    Should pick them up immediately.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Plug it into the back of your Saorview box and do a scan for satellite channels.

    The Finlux SAO634 is terrestrial-only. As the OP has mentioned several times already, it was receiving Freeview (UK terrestrial), which is perfectly possible in north Dublin.

    Incidentally OP, what was your Freeview reception like? Was it trouble-free or glitchy, even if only slightly?

    Do you still have Freeview reception on other TVs or boxes in the house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Plug it into the back of your Saorview box and do a scan for satellite channels.
    Should pick them up immediately.

    I have a Sky package so already using Sky box. Freeview reception was perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    I don't think the dish is being used. That box Finlux sa0634 is listed on the saorview site. I don't believe it's a combo.
    You can get both freeview and Saorview with correct setup, possibly weather is a factor today in North Dublin for freeview.

    Ideally the best situation would be using the dish with a Freesat receiver/box.
    That would be the perfect setup with your new Panasonic saorview tv and good freesat receiver/box.

    I generally believe Panasonic are one of the best tv's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Qprmeath wrote: »
    Freeview reception was perfect.

    You might have missed the edit to my other post: do you still have Freeview reception on other TVs or boxes in your home?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Thurston? wrote: »
    You might have missed the edit to my other post: do you still have Freeview reception on other TVs or boxes in your home?

    Checked small Samsung tv still have Uk channels. All BBC ones perfect currently but some Itv and Channel 4 ones breaking up a little


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Qprmeath wrote:
    Checked small Samsung tv still have Uk channels. All BBC ones perfect currently but some Itv and Channel 4 ones breaking up a little


    Sounds like weather is your issue today, in overspill areas we are not always guaranteed quality service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    Sounds like weather is your issue today, in overspill areas we are not always guaranteed quality service.

    Was same yesterday, Ill try it when weather calms down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    A manual scan was mentioned a couple of times already: if you want to try this, the frequencies for the Kilkeel transmitter (your likely Freeview source) are channel 45 (666 MHz) for the BBC SD services, ch. 42 (642 MHz) for SD ITV, Ch. 4, Ch. 5 etc., & ch. 39 (618 MHz) for the HD services.

    Don't know if it will do any good, & any services found will probably be glitchy if the TV does use lower strength/quality parameters to decide if they're worth tuning in, relative to the auto scan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    FRIENDO wrote: »

    I generally believe Panasonic are one of the best tv's.

    I don't and this episode seems to prove it.
    Panasonic sets are hobbled to only work in one country rather than the whole of the EU like other sets. They are not suitable for border areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    winston_1 wrote: »
    I don't and this episode seems to prove it.
    Panasonic sets are hobbled to only work in one country rather than the whole of the EU like other sets. They are not suitable for border areas.

    Nothing to do with hobbling. This is a tuner sensitivity issue.

    The tuner in the Finlux is clearing the threshold for reception whilst the internal tuner in the television isn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    In relation to the newest Panasonic tv set's on the market they are excellent.
    I set one up last week in Wexford for a relation.
    The set gave a choice of UK or Ireland.
    Obviously choosing Ireland, all available channels tuned in.
    The set automatically placed saorview channels first followed by freeview channels in the correct freeview channel places.
    All the rubbish hidden saorview channels were hidden.
    Both Saorview and freeview hd channels with a beautiful picture on the UHD Panasonic screen.
    So delighted that the full correct placing of both saorview and freeview channels are in automatic correct order.
    Obvious RTE is number 1 and BBC starts at number 10 or 11 I think.
    Excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    The Panasonic epg also offered new tricks compared to some of the older models. An excellent search feature for sport etc.
    However I don't think the saorview stations were working with the searching, possibly down to saorview software at the moment.
    I also had this issue with Saorview approved Walker stb, the search worked with freeview and not the saorview channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Installed the tv from scratch this morning and all worked fine, all stations nicely ordered Irish first Uk second. Must have been the weather? Getting far stronger signal on all stations today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Qprmeath wrote:
    Installed the tv from scratch this morning and all worked fine, all stations nicely ordered Irish first Uk second. Must have been the weather? Getting far stronger signal on all stations today

    That's good news, just wondering what model tv did you get?
    I'm thinking of getting a new Panasonic myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Panasonic TX-48c300B 48". Non smart. Very happy with picture quality and sound seems better than my last Samsung. Cost €500 in Briscoes in Drogheda


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    I'm in North County Dublin and my getting BBC/ITV etc off the Saorview aerial is weather dependent, usually when the weather is awful I get it crystal clear, when the weather is usually sunny and hot I tend to struggle, I always have the dish as backup though... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Only problem with new tv is Sky Remote wont sync with it


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Try codes for Philips or Alba, Goodmans, Walker, etc. as it's not a TV made by Panasonic but by Vestel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    byte wrote: »
    Try codes for Philips or Alba, Goodmans, Walker, etc. as it's not a TV made by Panasonic but by Vestel.

    Will do, although having looked online have yet to find anyone who got a code to work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    byte wrote:
    it's not a TV made by Panasonic but by Vestel.

    I didn't know that.
    Are all Panasonic tv's now being made by vestel?
    If this is the case I may as well buy a Walker tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    My Father has a Walker tv and it's perfect for him.
    However I always believed Panasonic to be a superior tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    "Assembled in Turkey"

    That's all you need to know....... Vestel are bigger than you think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    STB. wrote: »
    "Assembled in Turkey"

    That's all you need to know....... Vestel are bigger than you think.

    Should that bother me? Sky code thing is a right pain, surely should be sorted out by Panasonic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Qprmeath wrote: »
    Should that bother me? Sky code thing is a right pain, surely should be sorted out by Panasonic

    It should bother you if you wish to track down the code for the IR. Its probably a Vestel Code rather than a Panasonic.

    What version number is your Sky remote. It says this in the battery area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Sky HD Rev 9F


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  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    I didn't know that.
    Are all Panasonic tv's now being made by vestel?
    If this is the case I may as well buy a Walker tv.
    No, I believe it's just the lower end Cxxx models that are Vestel's. There was a predecessor that was also Vestel, the Axxx series IIRC.

    If codes for the likes of Philips, etc. don't work, then I guess Panasonic must be using a setup that differs from standard Vestel, much like Toshiba Vestel's.

    Not sure what the latest Sky remote revision is at the moment, but it may need to be a relatively recent edition.


    EDIT: Seems there isn't a known revision of Sky remote that'll work the new 2015 C and CX models of Panasonics. Quite odd for a big brand to release a TV that can't be programmed either with existing Panasonic or Vestel code sets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    As byte says, there are issues with the C300 and C400

    The Sky Remote Code checker for all TV's is here

    The 3 codes listed for Panasonic are 1664 or 2505 or 0678.

    Vestel Codes are 1695 or 1191 or 1171.

    Have you tried balancing on one knee, whilst covering the IR sensors on the Sky Box and pointing it directly at the TV with a copy of the Christmas edition of the RTE guide in your right hand ? Reported as working for someone on the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    @qprmeath Thank you. I have been informed that there will not be an update to add functionality with a Sky remote. I'm really sorry.

    From Panasonic on Twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    Qprmeath wrote: »
    @qprmeath Thank you. I have been informed that there will not be an update to add functionality with a Sky remote. I'm really sorry.

    From Panasonic on Twitter

    Surely it is not up to the manufacturer to do that. It is up to sky to add the manufacturers codes to their remote.

    I can never understand the obsession of using a sky remote to operate a TV anyway, TVs come with perfectly good remotes after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Surely it is not up to the manufacturer to do that. It is up to sky to add the manufacturers codes to their remote.

    I can never understand the obsession of using a sky remote to operate a TV anyway, TVs come with perfectly good remotes after all.

    Well I would imagine that most people find it cumbersome and very inconvenient to have to manage multiple remote controls handsets when it is possible to configure most of the everyday basic functions on to ONE single remote for their TV viewing.

    In some people homes, it would not be unusual to have TV Set Remote, Satellite or Saorview TV Remote, DVD Player Remote and many might also have remotes for Android TV Box, Video Sender, Midi Hifi System and so on. Remember, each device with separate Remote Controls requires the supply of batteries so; anything that cancels out having to operate additional remote controls for multiple devices is surely an advantage.


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