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Pigs - contract feeding?

  • 10-12-2015 10:30PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭


    Is there profit to be made with the opportunity of putting up a pig house for fattening pigs for these large big farmers.

    What is involved regulations, costs?

    Any person here feeding pigs for these farmers any ideas/help?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    farmers101 wrote: »
    Is there profit to be made with the opportunity of putting up a pig house for fattening pigs for these large big farmers.

    What is involved regulations, costs?

    Any person here feeding pigs for these farmers any ideas/help?

    Thanks

    One thing I do know is that the larger pig farmers who are expanding usually buy up pig farms which have stopped production due to the difficulties in getting planning for new units.

    Technical skill level required to achieve the outputs of the better operators very high. Don't see much opportunity for a inexperienced novice esp with the level of investment required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭gazahayes


    farmers101 wrote: »
    Is there profit to be made with the opportunity of putting up a pig house for fattening pigs for these large big farmers.

    What is involved regulations, costs?

    Any person here feeding pigs for these farmers any ideas/help?

    Thanks

    Ask any pig farmer they're all loosing money!!!
    You'd want to make sure you have an airtight contract that will pay before even thinking of it. Planning is very strict too.
    There's too many variables in it to make it work quality of feed and consistency
    Disease in farm of origin
    Weather and management.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    I would think long and hard about the risks
    It's a small enough industry and if you loose the contract you could loose your money invested and have trouble meeting repayments if you are taking out a loan.
    You will need a land bank for all pigs slurry as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Tried this for a few years back on the early 90's. I had the housing, and a crowd called Master Pork in Kildare put in light weaners.
    Pigs were moved again after , I think 6 weeks, to fattening units.
    Meal was collected from local co-op who were involved in some capacity or other.
    Basically the transport costs killed it. They had a couple of lads with big trailers behind Nissan Patrols delivering and collecting.
    Was a struggle to get the last payment. Lads who had spent money modifying sheds never broke even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭farmers101


    I hear the big pig farmers cover meal, transport and costs.

    All you have to do is look at the pigs daily, load lorrys a few times?

    The slurry could be an issue as I have few cattle and sheep. Have I to have enough lad for the slurry off all these animals?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭cuff92


    I work on a piggery. Trust me by the time you build the infrastructure and make a contract with a yahoo big pig operation it'll be 60 years before you make any profit.

    In an ideal world yes it would be very viable. But never mind the world this is Ireland. Contract rearing is all based on targets and bonuses. If you don't make the targets you won't make the bonuses. After that you'll be lucky to make repayments and electricity.

    It's all to do with growth rates and mortality. Pigs are delicate especially intensive pigs. If it were you I'd take up breeding pigeons or something as far away as possible from fattening pigs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    fellas giving up pigs around here and they are both good operater ,its going tighter and tighter and the lads left are too big to fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭ford 5600


    The only thing there is out of pigs for the last couple of decades , is what comes out of their tail end .
    If you are lucky , you might have the squeal left for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,222 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Big operators here Kiernans & Bouges both mill and sell feeds so have a serious advantage in having feeds at cost price.
    I've heard that's what keeps them going when the price dips and other operators are loosing money.


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