Gas boiler Service

ted1

I had what I believe was a dodgy boiler service today, the misses booked it.

The guy was here for 20-25 minutes. I was in the phone to her while he was here and asked to make sure he does a flue analysis. He told her he couldn't do one as it wasn't a condensing boiler.

I'm very sceptical. Should I be?

ted1

ted1 wrote: »

I had what I believe was a dodgy boiler service today, the misses booked it.

The guy was here for 20-25 minutes. I was in the phone to her while he was here and asked to make sure he does a flue analysis. He told her he couldn't do one as it wasn't a condensing boiler.

I'm very sceptical. Should I be?

Yep.

It's like getting your prostrate checked without the doc getting his/her:eek: hands dirty, not a proper check.

roy rodgers

It should be mandatory for any one working on gas to be using an analyser.
I know loads of lads that don't even have one which is scary!

How do they sleep at night.

roy rodgers

roy rodgers wrote: »

It should be mandatory for any one working on gas to be using an analyser.
I know loads of lads that don't even have one which is scary!

How do they sleep at night.

A idiot doesn't know he's a idiot and to make it worse he carries a card that says he's safe

ted1

I've sent a mail to RGII asking them if they require a Flue analysis and will pursue the matter upon their response.

Thanks.

Dtp1979

ted1 wrote: »

I've sent a mail to RGII asking them if they require a Flue analysis and will pursue the matter upon their response.

Thanks.

If you look at the cert 3 which you receive after a service, you'll see there's little boxes to be filled out from the flue gas analysis

ted1

Here's the response from RGI.




Hi



Technically there are three ways to determine correct combustion of an appliance .Burner pressure, Gas Rating or Flue Analysis

The later can only be carried out if the boiler has a test point on the flue (as condensing boilers have) or the flue terminal is accessible and the manufacturer’s instructions specify the co/co2 range for the appliance.

On the rear of the cert provided (cert 3) is listed the requirements for servicing as per Standard I.S.813 annex C



If I can be of any further assistance don’t hesitate to contact me



Kind Regards

Inspections Manager

Register of Gas Installers of Ireland

JustTheOne

ted1 wrote: »

Here's the response from RGI.




Hi



Technically there are three ways to determine correct combustion of an appliance .Burner pressure, Gas Rating or Flue Analysis

The later can only be carried out if the boiler has a test point on the flue (as condensing boilers have) or the flue terminal is accessible and the manufacturer’s instructions specify the co/co2 range for the appliance.

On the rear of the cert provided (cert 3) is listed the requirements for servicing as per Standard I.S.813 annex C



If I can be of any further assistance don’t hesitate to contact me



Kind Regards

Inspections Manager

Register of Gas Installers of Ireland

Cant believe they state burner pressure and gas rating as determining combustion.

The only way is to stick a probe in the flue simple as.

Dtp1979

If a Flue gas analysis isn't carried out then it's pure laziness and the highest level of Cowboymanship there is.
I think every Rgi should have to show a calibration cert for their analyser every year. It's crazy that we don't have to

FTimon

Agreed

Brutal

Gas rating and burner pressure only indicate gas used and not quality of combustion.

To answer your question a gas analyser is not required to service a standard efficiency boiler(unless the manufactures require it) but you still had a crap service;)

A gas analysers helps indicate correct combustion but a gas service engineer can determine correct/incorrect combustion by being trained to do so.

The use of a analyser is not looked for by most SE boiler manufactures which is the reason for the lack of test points or manufactures analyser test readings.

Analysers are a handy tool, a print out left after a service is a good and professional thing to do but it is not a requirement.



A bit of history on the use of gas analyser:

Gas analysers were first introduced by British Gas in the 80s to allow a gas engineer to determine correct combustion on a older boiler that might be damaged if stripped down, it was not used on every boiler as there was no need.

Some clever business man in British Gas then decided to stop servicing all SE boilers properly and just use a analyser to allow for quick services:mad: