Seetec/JobPath - Letter to attend info session

LegacyUser

Just checking if any others have received this letter.

I received a letter from the dept of social protection saying I was selected to be given a personal employment advisor.

Looks like the government have outsourced their employment service to SeeTec. Anyone know what this crowd intend on doing. Is it actual advice?

I haven't heard of Seetec before.

Nomis21

Found this: https://www.welfare.ie/en/pressoffice/Pages/pr131014.aspx



Is Jobpath just another version of Tús?

I can't see any difference between the two.

LegacyUser

Hey did u go to the meeting? What was it about?

foreversky

How did it go

Tinkerbell.123

[UOTE=Geoff25;98033164]Just checking if any others have received this letter.

I received a letter from the dept of social protection saying I was selected to be given a personal employment advisor.

Looks like the government have outsourced their employment service to SeeTec. Anyone know what this crowd intend on doing. Is it actual advice?

I haven't heard of Seetec before.[/QUOTE]
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Hi I'm just wondering how did you get on? I received a letter from Seetec yesterday for a group meeting, does this last for long? Thanks

Sean9015

Tinkerbell.123 wrote: »

Hi I'm just wondering how did you get on? I received a letter from Seetec yesterday for a group meeting, does this last for long? Thanks

I've just had my first - with Turas Nua, not Seetec. Shambles doesn't cover it. Got the standard letter telling me there would be a two to three hour information session. Actually, I got two identical letters on DSP paper but from TN in Roscrea, sent and received on the same day. In fairness, one had a sheet with a map of the location on, the other didn't, so that's alright - but it gave an insight into the "efficiency" of this private sector provider.

You must attend etc etc. Got there, and 30 odd of us stuck in a fairly small room with no air-con on and no opening windows with an outside temperature of about 23C. Much faffing about outside the room, then a woman walks in talking, first thing she says is "We know you've been told 2-3 hours, but we will give you a quick presentation then you will have your first meeting with your advisor. Won't keep you too long." She then berated the DSP for not sending their rep, read out four or five pages of a powerpoint presentation on the whiteboard taking about 6 minutes, then when the "Any questions?" appeared started walking out saying "ask your advisor if you have any questions. You'll be called shortly". All virtually without taking a breath. No interaction, and no respect for those in the room either from TN, or indeed the DSP given they didn't even turn up.

I was somewhat annoyed by this, as looking at the age of some of the people there is every chance they had been required to make changes to childcare arrangements and the like, and doubtless others may have had to adjust things to attend the whole afternoon - I myself could have been doing something more constructive. Including time with the advisor, I was in there for about 35 minutes, being about the tenth called.

The advisor allocated seems OK, but from reading other comments this attitude can change as time goes on and you haven't earned them the money. Rest assured, you are not their client in the way of a normal employment agency or state body - you are the product. The interview area is not private, just an open plan room with desks in - again a sign of the lack of respect. The advisors are not trained in benefits available, so referral for BTEA or another scheme looks unlikely - I suppose because in that event they don't get paid. You are asked several questions in the first meeting, many of which seem unrelated to the matter in hand - but I was only told you don't have to answer these when I queried why it was being asked. That information is not offered up front.

To cap it all, the department had overlapped this with a Tus referral, which took the best part of a day to untangle. There appears to be no cross-check of what has been sent out - covered according to the Department by a statement on the Tus letter than you may also be called for other schemes - yet if you don't attend without sorting it yourself, you're the one that gets sanctioned. So the Tus provider now has a wasted interview slot too.

Tinkerbell.123

Sean9015 wrote: »

I've just had my first - with Turas Nua, not Seetec. Shambles doesn't cover it. Got the standard letter telling me there would be a two to three hour information session. Actually, I got two identical letters on DSP paper but from TN in Roscrea, sent and received on the same day. In fairness, one had a sheet with a map of the location on, the other didn't, so that's alright - but it gave an insight into the "efficiency" of this private sector provider.

You must attend etc etc. Got there, and 30 odd of us stuck in a fairly small room with no air-con on and no opening windows with an outside temperature of about 23C. Much faffing about outside the room, then a woman walks in talking, first thing she says is "We know you've been told 2-3 hours, but we will give you a quick presentation then you will have your first meeting with your advisor. Won't keep you too long." She then berated the DSP for not sending their rep, read out four or five pages of a powerpoint presentation on the whiteboard taking about 6 minutes, then when the "Any questions?" appeared started walking out saying "ask your advisor if you have any questions. You'll be called shortly". All virtually without taking a breath. No interaction, and no respect for those in the room either from TN, or indeed the DSP given they didn't even turn up.

I was somewhat annoyed by this, as looking at the age of some of the people there is every chance they had been required to make changes to childcare arrangements and the like, and doubtless others may have had to adjust things to attend the whole afternoon - I myself could have been doing something more constructive. Including time with the advisor, I was in there for about 35 minutes, being about the tenth called.

The advisor allocated seems OK, but from reading other comments this attitude can change as time goes on and you haven't earned them the money. Rest assured, you are not their client in the way of a normal employment agency or state body - you are the product. The interview area is not private, just an open plan room with desks in - again a sign of the lack of respect. The advisors are not trained in benefits available, so referral for BTEA or another scheme looks unlikely - I suppose because in that event they don't get paid. You are asked several questions in the first meeting, many of which seem unrelated to the matter in hand - but I was only told you don't have to answer these when I queried why it was being asked. That information is not offered up front.

To cap it all, the department had overlapped this with a Tus referral, which took the best part of a day to untangle. There appears to be no cross-check of what has been sent out - covered according to the Department by a statement on the Tus letter than you may also be called for other schemes - yet if you don't attend without sorting it yourself, you're the one that gets sanctioned. So the Tus provider now has a wasted interview slot too.

Hi, thanks for all of that, do you mind me asking what do they ask at the 1-1 meeting? Does it last long? Will you have to go in every week to them?

rsole1

Tinkerbell.123 wrote: »

Hi, thanks for all of that, do you mind me asking what do they ask at the 1-1 meeting? Does it last long? Will you have to go in every week to them?

I'm nearing the end of my 12 months. It started off once a week job search for an hour, then it soon went to once a month for a meeting with the advisor. Just apply for jobs, record all applications and give them a copy and show them you are looking for work. It might be different if you are a young person, but as I'm nearly 60 they don't seem that interested.

Sean9015

Tinkerbell.123 wrote: »

Hi, thanks for all of that, do you mind me asking what do they ask at the 1-1 meeting? Does it last long? Will you have to go in every week to them?

Only had the one mentioned so far - just checking details mainly, and asking if I'd brought a CV (I hadn't, as there was no indication I needed to). Next meeting was scheduled for just over two weeks later, which has not yet arrived.