Garden Shed.

martinn123

Hi guys,
Need some pointers please.. Relative is interested in putting in an offer on house, built 10 yrs ago, in good condition, needs a decorative revamp, new kitchen Etc.

I went to see the house last week, and there is a block build shed in the rear garden, it's partially plastered, D/G window and Door, would convert easily to a nice study

My issue is the size and remaining garden space, well when I say garden it's all paved.

We phoned the Auctioneer, who says the asking price has reduced this week by 10K which made me suspicious

The shed, on Google Earth appears to be 15 SqM
The garden appears to be 40 SqM, so it's tight on the 25 SqM remaining
We requested the Agent provide some certification, but he is being unhelpful.

So we do not want to make an offer, and pay for a survey which might state that the shed is unauthorised, I feel the vendor should provide this info.

Apart from the size and remaining garden issue, are there any other issues we should be wary of regarding this shed.

Gumbo

Ask for a second viewing and measure the garden yourself.

martinn123

kceire wrote: »

Ask for a second viewing and measure the garden yourself.

A reasonable suggestion, thanks.
However the Bank won't accept my assertion that it's ok, as I am not a surveyor.
From the measurements I gave it's tight, the garden is not guide square so if I am off by 200mm we have a problem.

We are looking at other houses in the same estate and area, so I think the request to the EA is reasonable, after all if I was buying a Car, I would expect a current NCT, not a suggestion that you check it out and we will sort it out later, we are buying not selling.

I see plenty of threads here where purchasers are running around like blue arse flies sorting issues regarding a purchase where the vendor should be offering a clear title.

Anyway, other than the 25 SqM issue, anything else we should look out for.

Gumbo

martinn123 wrote: »

A reasonable suggestion, thanks.
However the Bank won't accept my assertion that it's ok, as I am not a surveyor.
From the measurements I gave it's tight, the garden is not guide square so if I am off by 200mm we have a problem.

We are looking at other houses in the same estate and area, so I think the request to the EA is reasonable, after all if I was buying a Car, I would expect a current NCT, not a suggestion that you check it out and we will sort it out later, we are buying not selling.

I see plenty of threads here where purchasers are running around like blue arse flies sorting issues regarding a purchase where the vendor should be offering a clear title.

Anyway, other than the 25 SqM issue, anything else we should look out for.

Once you make an offer, include it as a condition of the sale. Certificate of exemption from planning.

Did you check the height of the shed? Lower than 3m (flat roof) and 4m (pitched roof).

What LA is the house located in?

Angry bird

Back garden paved over, that needs planning as a minimum of half must be grass or similar. Sounds like the shed may well need planning as well given that rear garden may well be less than 25 square metres. Vendors problem.

martinn123

kceire wrote: »

Once you make an offer, include it as a condition of the sale. Certificate of exemption from planning.

Did you check the height of the shed? Lower than 3m (flat roof) and 4m (pitched roof).

What LA is the house located in?

Fingal Co Co
Height ok pitched roof,

Thanks for the pointer regarding " cert" However we still have to employ a surveyor for the house which may be wasted.

martinn123

Angry bird wrote: »

Back garden paved over, that needs planning as a minimum of half must be grass or similar. Sounds like the shed may well need planning as well given that rear garden may well be less than 25 square metres. Vendors problem.

Thanks for input, but can you clarify the " grassed " regulation, that's a new one for me.

Angry bird

As in not paved over or hardcore area. If greater than half, planning needed.

Calahonda52

Angry bird wrote: »

As in not paved over or hardcore area. If greater than half, planning needed.

It would help OP greatly if u could put a link up for this rule as he can then tell the EA/vendor that there is an issue with paving as per....

Angry bird

Planning Exemptions: Class 3 re garage page 256, Class 6 re paving over rear garden, page 258. http://www.environ.ie/en/Legislation/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad,32878,en.pdf

martinn123

Angry bird wrote: »

Planning Exemptions: Class 3 re garage page 256, Class 6 re paving over rear garden, page 258. http://www.environ.ie/en/Legislation/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad,32878,en.pdf

Many thanks for the link

I read it as

Provided that the area of the hard surface is
less than 25 square metres or less than 50%
of the area of the garden forward of the front
building line of the house, or 50% of the area
of the garden to the side of the side building
line of the house, as the case may be,
whichever is the smaller,
or
if the area of the hard surface is 25 square
metres or greater or comprises more than
50% of the area of the garden forward of the
front building line of the house, or 50% of the
area of the garden to the side of the side
building line of the house, as the case may be,
it shall be constructed using permeable
materials or otherwise allow for rainwater to
soak into the ground

referring to Forward of the House, or at the side, no mention of the Rear??

Angry bird

Yep, my mistake.

sydthebeat

martinn123 wrote: »

Many thanks for the link

I read it as


referring to Forward of the House, or at the side, no mention of the Rear??

there is mention 'to the rear'

Any works within the curtilage of a
house for—
(i) the provision to the rear of the
house of a hard surface for use for
any purpose incidental to the
enjoyment of the house as such,
or,

edit: hard surfaces to the rear ARE allowed... i got my conditions mixed up