Surname- Organ

limericklad87

Hey guys,

Racking my brain here once again...

Tracing my mothers side back to a Agnes McMahon here in limerick. In the 1901 census she is in the same house as her sixty year old mother listed as Alice Organ.

First question is how widespread is this name?

In the 1901 census Agnes is listed as 23, with three daughters aged 5,4,3

Obviously census ages can't be depended upon and the 1911 only compounds the problem. Any chance any one can find a record for this Agnes McMahon (organ), born ? And married to a Patrick McMahon 1894.

Or indeed any pointers

tabbey

There are 116 Organs in the 1911 census and 130 in 1901.

Agnes may have been registered as O'Regan, in which case, she may be Agnes Mary, of Robert O'Regan,and Mary Tubbs, of Colloney Street, Limerick. born 19 Dec 1872, registered 1 Jan 1873. Limerick no.4 reg district.
However, this seems a bit early, maybe her age was understated in 1901.

Hermy

Just checked the civil indexes and

Name: Agnes Organ Patrick M'Mahon
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep, 1894
Registration district: Limerick, Ireland
Volume: 5
Page Number: 230

pinkypinky

First name(s) Patrick
Last name M'Mahon
Registration year 1894
Registered Quarter/Year Jul - Sep 1894
Registration district Limerick
Volume 5
Page 230
County -
MarriageFinder™ Patrick M'Mahon married one of these people
Agnes Organ, Bridget Creamer, Mary M'Namara, Bridget Butterfield

This looks like the right marriage.

pinkypinky

Ha! Cross-posted with Hermy.

Hermy

Birth of Agnes?

Name: Agnes Organ
Date of Registration: 1877
Registration district: Ennistimon
Volume: 19
Page: 248

Also possible baptism for this birth at NLI.ie

Hermy

Patrick and Brigid in 1901 [spelt Orgen] and 1911

And their marriage

Name: Patrick Organ Bridget O'Brien
Date of Registration: 1871
Registration district: Ennistimon, Ireland
Volume: 4
Page Number: 361

Parish record of marriage at NLI.ie

limericklad87

Cheers lads.... Everything adding up except conflicting with this in the census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Limerick_No__1/Bonfield_Lane/1496872/

According to this agnes mother is alice

pinkypinky

Well, obviously, you'll get the marriage cert of Agnes and Patrick. That will tell you her father's name and a church. Fingers crossed that church's records will be available on Rootsireland and you'll find her mother's maiden name from there.

Hermy

Sorry limericklad - only realising my oversight now.
Your Agnes and Alice are Limerick City.
The people I've linked to are Ennistimon.
I was in too much of a hurry to join up the dots!

KildareFan

It is possible that Alice and Agnes were born in Enistimon - Agnes couldn't read and the form was filled out for her so the wrong information about birthplace might have been recorded.